*Correction: I can run *some* commands. Example, `qtile.cmd_togroup('5')`
doesn't do anything (but returns without error), but
`qtile.groups_map['5'].cmd_toscreen()` does work.
On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 7:40:30 PM UTC-6 James Wright wrote:
> I believe I've figured out a solution for my issues: using `aiomanhole` in
> the config with `netcat`, as Ramnes does in his config:
> https://github.com/ramnes/qtile-config/blob/master/config.py
>
> This allows me to *properly* explore the command structure using a
> pseudo-python console using `dir()` and I can't run commands from it, but I
> couldn't really do that with qtile shell anyways, so I'll take being able
> to explore the actual qtile objects.
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 4:43:08 PM UTC-6 James Wright wrote:
>
>> Not directly related to my question, but I did stumble upon this
>> detailed explanation
>> <https://github.com/qtile/qtile/discussions/2337#discussioncomment-554202>
>> of the reasoning behind the current backend system and figured that it'd be
>> a good idea to include here in case anyone stumbles upon this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 10:43:46 AM UTC-6 James Wright wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've been having a really hard time trying to figure how to do some
>>> basic customizations with qtile. I'm quite familiar with Python, but I'm
>>> running into two primary issues:
>>>
>>> A) I can't access a "raw" `qtile` object to inspect it, so writing lazy
>>> functions is effectively impossible (beyond copy-pasting someone else's
>>> code). Most of my hacking is just guess and check. I've tried using the
>>> InteractiveCommandClient and CommandClient, but they don't (to my
>>> knowledge) replicate what I'd need to put in my `config.py`.
>>>
>>> B) I can't actually inspect objects to see what attributes/methods are
>>> available for me to use since qtile relies on the `__getattr__` construct.
>>> I'm guessing there's some reason for why it would be done this way, but
>>> that almost single-handedly makes it impossible for me to figure out 1)
>>> what object do I have and 2) what can I do with it. There are some errors
>>> in the documentation, but not being able to use `dir()` effectively means I
>>> have no idea what to do.
>>>
>>> Both of these combined have lead to a very frustrating 5 days of trying
>>> to figure qtile out and trying to implement features I want. Even just
>>> trying to copy-paste code from others only works 50% of the time and I have
>>> no idea how to fix it because of the two above issues.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something that makes this process easier? I really want to
>>> make qtile work, as I can see how easily customizable it is, but it's
>>> feeling pretty impossible right now.
>>>
>>
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