Well said, Dave.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of
being.....
this is why communism doesn't
work as well. any time you have a pot
into which all those who can, put something in, and all those who can't - take
something out, contributors find no reward for working hard and the withdrawers
find no penalty for sitting on their butts. all groups insure the survival
of the weaker members in this way as do civilizations. fortunately, in our
country there's a limit on depositing so those who are inspired to do so can
indeed move ahead. i don't personally know of anyone heavy on the take but
i would think the weight of their own inulgences would cause them to reflect and
soon turn them to looking for a way out. i think it's human nature to want
to be independant, i also think that not everyone capable is made of the right
stuf to take control of their own destiny - those people will die as slaves to
their own weaknesses crying 'poor me' all the way out. dave.
In a message dated 10/13/2004 8:59:57 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It took me five years to pay the hospital bill for the birth of my
daughter 13 years ago. I have two female acquaintances who quit school,
proceeded to have three and four kids respectively, and have never paid a cent
for medical care. They currently getevery benefit available and are trying
hard to get themselves and their children declared disabled. I have been a
quad for 33 years and the only assistance I have received is from Voc.
Rehab. It burns me. On the other hand, children can't be allowed to suffer. I
see no easy answer until people take responsibility for their own
actions, an unlikely scenario considering human nature. I will say this:
Having children is not a "right"; it is a privilege.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:45 PM
Subject: [QUAD-L] RE: Bush plays the game of
being.....
Not all single
women have children just to receive a welfare check every month. Do you
think it is fun to live like that? There are many women who work full
time jobs, and have to have government assistance to survive. You should
not have to give up your child because you are financially unstable.
By the time I was 19, I had three children.
I worked two full time jobs, but still couldn't make it. I had food
stamps, and lowered rent, but I deserved my children just as much as a woman
who was married and financially stable.
And for
the women who don't work, many times you can't win for losing. If you
work, you do not earn enough to to raise a family, and if you apply for
benefits, you don't receive enough assistance to even help make a
difference. By the time you add child care for when you do go to work,
you still have nothing. If you quit your job, you are then eligible for
more assistance, and you can live better than if you were working. It is
no way to live, but you do what you have to do to
survive.
Now for those women who don't even try to better themselves
or the lives for their children, is unexceptable. But they should not
have to adopt out their children. Until you have had to live in the
system and raise children, you should not judge whether they deserve to have
and keep their children. You could one day have to depend on food
stamps, welfare, and lowered rent to raise your kids, because you aren't
guaranteed a stable life. Would it be fair to say that a mother who is
disabled should have to adopt out their child? No!
It is a struggle depending on the government to
raise your family, but it doesn't make you any less deserving of a family, a
bad mom, or any less of a person. If anything needs to change, it is the
way the system works. Better assistance should be available for those
mothers who are working, that way they can get on their feet, become stable,
and come out of the system and poverty. For the mothers who did not want
to work, they would have to become employed in order to best utilize their
resources, and would see that working is more beneificial than welfare.
The welfare system makes it impossible to get back on your feet when you have
hit rock bottom.
As far as teenage
pregnancy, yes, it is irresponsible. We have all made decisions as teens
that were not responsible, but we are only human. Who are we to judge
one another anyway? I do believe that we all have our flaws!!!
Well, kids and single women are having babies
and living off of the system. They get money to raise the baby, money
off of rent, food stamps, and other things they may be eligible for.
It is a shame. I think those people should be forced to give their
babies up for adoption or after having a couple they should. So many
of these women have 4,5 or more kids. I know a woman from back home
that has 7 and doesn't work because she gets so much
help.
Stacy
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