there are all sorts of ways to say
things. if kerry felt it absolutely necessary to make a gay comment, he
could easily have chosen another target, the only reason to single out cheney's
daughter was to make a point about his opponent. when you discover your
dad has bad breath, you don't say, "hay dad, you been chewing on your socks
again?" but instead, "go brush dad" this points out kerry's questionable
values and that he will stoop pretty low to make a point. some things
a gentleman just doesn't say. i'm waiting for the backpeddling when the
news of his less than honorable discharge in '71 hits the news, changed later to
honorable in '77 my slick willy. the prove the justification for
slime to be able to identify the cream in the crowd. he's like the speeder
on the road we all appreciate to draw attention away fom us. he's the
class clown we all enjoy but won't sit with. he's the ross perot of
politics we all enjoy listening to but would never actually vote for. he's
the national ev mecham, the billy carter, the anne richards asking, "where was
george?" go john, open that mouth again, we need the laugh.
dave
In a message dated 10/16/2004 10:55:06 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
River and Jim
You're both kinda' right, but seeing it with partisan
slant it seems. The content of Kerry's response was completely within an
inclusive, democratic, vote-getting (maybe a bit of pandering) agenda. But
that has to be better than Bush's "us VS those queers
who chose a god-hated, ostracized, unworthy of being
acknowledged, hedonistic, diseased deserved" life style. By concentrating on
lesbians it was both an attempted slight by Kerry toward Bush because , after
all, Kerry is ready to deal, but knew it was still a bit "untidy" for the Bush
camp and he was testing the waters of the voting pool to gauge the acceptable
level of mud-throwing the voting public will accept. This unneeded addition of
Kerry adding "....who is a lesbian", rightfully may have elicited a groan-
rest assured Kerry's future comments on this subject will be much more
polished. The question answered by my vote is no pro- Kerry vote, but rather
a more hopeful for the future, first step on a new path
vote
CW
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From: Jim Lubin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:24 PM
To: River
Wolfe
Cc: quad
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The "L" word is not a
dirty word
What BS.
He could have just as easily used New
Jersey Gov. James McGreevey or Massachusetts Congressman
Barney Frank who are openly gay public officials if he wanted to personalize
his answer. Mary Cheney is the vice-president's daughter and also a private
citizen. Reporters at the debate reported that the audience (of college
students) "moaned" when Kerry gave his response.
At 04:25 AM
10/15/2004, River Wolfe wrote:
Here is the statement released
by GLAAD the prime media organization representing GLBT people in the
media. The Human Rights Campaign's statement is similar in tone.
"Bush's answer to Bob
Schieffer's question about sexual orientation and Kerry's invocation of
Mary Cheney -- whether you agree or disagree with that decision as a
political matter -- crystallized a key difference between the candidates.
One continues to talk about us in the abstract. The other went out of his
way to present us as real people -- to acknowledge our lives, our
families, and our humanity. It's clear from their answers last night that
these two candidates have very different visions of our place in the life
of our nation.
"I would imagine that Kerry is as surprised as I am by the
firestorm over his reference to Mary Cheney. Gay people are part of our
nation, our families, our circles of friends. For anyone to suggest that
mentioning us is somehow wrong or off-limits says more about their
discomfort with gays and lesbians than it does about Kerry's decision last
night to include and acknowledge us."
peace and justice,
River </blockquote></x-html>
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