I've grown 2 love plants and trees also :) have a variety of cacti &
succulents :) Manly type plants :)

They have a very lovely garden at Navy Pier Wally, Andrea, and I visited it
a couple yrs back. Had a few pix I think on Stuntmans site.
It is a blessing 2 have plants and trees and a necessity 4 us  2 live.

On 4/3/05 4:07 PM, "Dana Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am sooooo envious!  Missouri is not bad and can get very hot, but I do
> hate the winters!  I do think they should be more ecologically sensative--a
> lot!--but thats business for ya!  I love trees and hate any of then to be
> cut down--lived in an old house(my husband and mine "first" house) with 10
> foot ceilings and completely shaded by trees all around.  We did not need
> a/c!  Sometimes would sit under a tree after work and splash my feet in the
> kiddie swimming pool, but it was at least bearable as long as air was
> moving.  The yard was large, the 20' x 40' dog pen attached to the separate
> garage, was barely noticed.  It was an old house tho, had not been taken
> care of and really needed to be gutted and redone.  Instead we sold it at a
> profit and moved into one of those sub-divisions built on a field that was a
> repo.  House was better.  Yard stank!  It did have a lot of trees on the lot
> for some reason.  We had the equivilant of all the trees on our street in
> our yard.
> I forbade my husband to touch them!  When we divorced the first thing he did
> was cut the 2 big pines in the front down and the tree next to the back
> patio.  That still left several trees, but I have not seen it and will not
> go by it again.  We had so many birds in the winter and we planted plants
> that attracted hummingbirds and my ex had a nice rose garden coming along.
> We added 2 dog runs to the side of the house under another pine.  Put
> privacy up in the front and partially down the side.  There was not much air
> circulation there, so on really hot days, the dogs stayed in the garage with
> a fan, unless we were home, then they enjoyed the central a/c as we did.
> 
> There was a bank downtown that had a mini-tree/garden retreat just outside
> their building with trees and lots of shade loving plants.  When you walked
> by, it felt like10 degrees cooler!  There were benchers and people used it
> to rest, cool off and enjoy a bit of nature.  Its gone now and there are
> rock benches and is as hot as everything else is.
> 
> If people would just remember what trees and plants do for us!  Off my
> soapbox now.  take care,
> 
> Dana
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lori Michaelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Quad" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] AZ
> 
> 
> A life changer indeed Greg!  I look & feel 100% better (despite UTIs) after
> moving to Tucson.
> 
> 84 here today and a balmy 74 evening.  You were SO LUCKY bnuying when you
> did!  That's
> NOW why we can't ... prices too high :-(
> 
> All the building however (in a desert) is good & bad.  Our neighborhood has
> grown exponentially too (hundreds or thousands more homes in just 2 yrs), a
> new
> hospital, street repair, etc.
> 
> But all the building has been non-stop noise and dust & dirt for over a year
> Valley fever
> can occur because of this and they don't water it down as they should.
> 
> We just started seeing a Tucson commercial of a kid walking to school and
> all the dust plumes
> he passes (from street blowers to construction to you name it).  Upon
> arriving
> to school he coughs out huge plumes of dust (exaggerrated).
> 
> Then it says 2000 people will die in Tucson this year from desert dust air
> quality problems.
> 
> Unfortunately, just over our backyard 6-foot brick wall is a street
> expanding further.  It'll be a busy noisy street.
> And the truck noise out there starts at 7 AM daily.
> 
> 
> Been working out there a year in the SAME PLACE!  Non-stop noise & dust.
> WHY it's taking so long who
> knows.  Under other circumstances I wouldn;'t care but I called the PIMA
> COUNTY DEPT OF
> AIR QUALITY a week ago (the commercial I stated was to encourage people to
> call if they're
> in an area affected by huge dust).
> 
> They're supposed to send someone out for the formal complaint.
> 
> Although we're in a nice part of Tucson ... we've seen so much beautiful
> quiet desert areas nearby
> with Saguaros and their kin be destroyed for subdivisions to be built.  I'm
> not a tree hugger but
> it's gotten bad.  And getting worse.
> 
> I love it (warmth, skies like no other) and hate it (unable to buy).
> 
> But love our forecast!  After 35 yrs in the northeast freezing ... I'm in
> balmy heaven.
> 
> Lori
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: Greg
> Date: 04/02/05 17:13:39
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [QUAD-L] AZ
> 
> My first Spring in AZ. It's great, 85 degrees here. It's a big change from
> my past, I'm wearing short sleeve shirts for the first time in 23 years.
> Which means my first sunburn on my arms in 23 years. We moved here in Sep.
> and we are on the South edge of a growing suburb. Only 1 close grocery store
> It's said to be the fastest growing town in the country.  Already we have a
> number of stores and restaurants. A new freeway building 2 miles away. They
> are building a Starbucks, Wallmart, Costco, Samsclub, by the new freeway,
> plus tons of high-end stores near by. It's funny, every time we see a new
> store we like, we get happy. They are building a 10 acre park at the end of
> my street. 2 miles away they are building a huge 100 acre watrerbird
> preserve, filled with parks and paths, I can't wait. I got so lucky. We
> bought just after housing started going up. We picked this area because of
> pricing, but before we got here, they jumped lots. But after I bought, they
> sky rocketed. Houses!
> on my block are going for 35%-40% more than I paid. They are halfway done
> building my pool. I'm not sure I will ever get in it, but I can't wait to be
> out sitting by the pool in the sun. I spent 23 years basically couped up
> sitting by the fireplace in my TV room, only getting out a few times in
> summer. Now, even if I stay home, I'm at least going outside, getting my
> niece from school, etc. Starting in March, on Tuesday nights the city has
> free "Music In The Park" different live bands, from rock to jazz to classic.
> Lots of cool things going on. I'm sure lots of cities do these things, it's
> just I was always to cold to go out in the nights. To you cold quads, moving
> somewhere warm can be a life changer.
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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