Thr Korean Airlines have given the stem-cell scientist who made the breakthrough free first-class tickets for ten years. Over here, we would give him free boarding in a jail cell. Quite a difference.



So, we don't study embryonic stem cells because its been determined prior to study that they aren't promising? That sounds like what Laura Bush said. Now
that we can comfortably
claim to be in last place in stem cell research among industrialized
nations, I sure feel good that Bush has guided the US away from learning unethical
things. Next thing you know, we will ground the airlines because, what  is
holding them up?

john

In a message dated 6/2/2005 6:48:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That set  of stem cells referred to as being contaminated
are "EMBRYONIC". Why the  MEDIA keeps dropping that IMPORTANT
distinction is political in nature. It  creates an illusion that ALL
stem cell sources are. Olfactory stem cells,  cord blood stem cells,
bone marrow stem cells, etc are being reaserched  using federal funds
AND ARE NOT CONTAMINATED. In fact, they have more  promise of not being
rejected.
It is understandable why a researcher  who thinks they are being
overlooked, underfunded etc make a bunch of  noise trying to be the
squeakiest wheel.
It doesn't mean their reaserch  holds the most promise.
Stunt

>
>
> And this is  what they're funding!
> This is why they don't even try  to  research it's pointless and it's
a "Ban"
> or would people want  their federal funds wasted on research that we
can't
> use?
>  So I agree they can talk about allowing federal funds then throw them
>  useless material to work with so you're right it's lip service and
everyone
> knows it.
>
> Mark
>
> A study  published in the online journal Nature Medicine says the stem-
cell
>  lines are contaminated with a non-human molecule that may make them
risky
> for use in medical therapies. Three years ago, Bush said  federal
funds could
> be used for research only on a limited number  of stem-cell lines
already in
> existence. That allowed research to  continue and enabled the
president to
> assure social conservatives  that no new embryos would be destroyed in
the
> process.
> If  few or none of the stem cells in the federally approved batch
remain
> uncontaminated, Bush is wasting precious time. To people  suffering
from
> Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, diabetes and other  ailments, the president's
> policy is a failure because it impedes  progress.
> The cells were contaminated because of the manner in which  they are
> processed. Researchers grow the cells in petri dishes lined  with
cells from
> mice and bathed in serum derived from calves and  other animals.
>
> -------Original  Message-------
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:  06/01/05 20:50:35
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [email protected]
>  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] stem cell research
>
> Now you got  it! The feds are funding it, but under such restrictive
rules
> they  haven't the resources to perform and duplicate experiments
>  independently. The existing stem cells have been proven to be
contaminated.
> The rules still say that's all they can use. It is  lip service. The
Bush
> administration has wrapped itself in  stupidity and they are damn
proud of it
>  Remember, morons  have rights too!
>
> In a message dated 6/1/2005 8:28:03  P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>  Yea,
> But along with Federal funding comes a lot of extra rules and
> regulations.
> Private funded researchers tend to not waste  money like their Fedraly
> funded counterparts, and can make the most  rapid advances.
> Once private research has found a proven technology,  then the Federal
> dollars will flow.
> Most medical advances  actualy start this way.
> IMHO the media is over playing this issue to  further the "Progressive
> Ideologies" which includes abortion and  euthenasia.
> While Embryonic stem cells "MIGHT" be the answer, there  is no proof
> that it is more promising than stem cells harvested from  the person
> needing treatment.
> Until that proof unfolds, I'd  rather see our gov err on the side of
> caution in regards to  ethics.
> Stunt
>
> >
> > Hi Stuntman,
>  >
> > I understand the difference between PRIVATE and  FEDERAL funding for
> research.  It's kind of like owning a  PRIVATE Corvette and not
putting
> FEDERAL gasoline in it.  It  will look great in my driveway but won't
> get me on the road.
>  >
> > I hope you had a good Memorial Day!
>  >
> >
> > With Love,
> >
> >  CtrlAltDel aka Dave
> > C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post
> >  Texas, USA
> > Stuntman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> > Howdy Dave,
> > PRIVATE research can still make  use of those, it's just not allowed
> > under FEDERAL  funding.
> > I wish the same would be applied to abortions.
>  > BTW all that money collected by the Reeve's foundation is PRIVATE
so
> it
> > can make use of those types of stem cell  sources.
> > Stunt
>
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