Re: [QUAD-L] why are we in Iraq

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Kuwait is a joke. The entire population is millionaires that send their kids to schools that teach them to hate us. There we stood up to tyranny. The Amir of Kuwait is a tin pot ruler if there ever was one. In the Arab world he is a dirty old man. Why don't we send in the troops when it involves poor nations. I don't want us to be the world cop. This brute force policy will not work. We helped to keep the Iran/Iraq war going for 8 years. We sent intell and supplies to both sides along with negotiating over hostages and used the excess money that generated to finance Nicaraguan anti-counter-insurgents and Ollie North said it was "neat". He was right. Nobody doubts the strength of the American Army, but I can't believe how the lives and health of so many men are squandered on policies and ill informed decisions made by people who seem to be making a lot of bad decisions lately. Now we are simply making bad decisions and watching the body count rise. At this point I'd be a little encouraged if we were hearing talk our troops pulling into some safe haven base similar to Gitmo. I'd be ecstatic if they said they'd bring them home. They aren't saying that. They are talking about Osama Bun Laden living in Iran. Do you see anything getting better? Am I alone in thinking that we didn't do our homework on our policies toward the nations in the Gulf or we never would have had this much trouble? When America uses force the rest of the world often thinks that we are the bully since nobody has ever shown the ability to stop our military. Certainly we have a stake in the futures of other countries. Must we go all over the world creating American Martyrs.  I'm really believe that we can do much better in the world without using our military any more than we absolutely must. Soldiers are real Americans, too. If there was no oil in the middle east, we would sit back and watch it with less interest than we had in Rwanda. Since there is oil there, I think we should do our damndest to find other sources of energy. Why is negotiating a bad thing?   john   In a message dated 6/15/2005 10:28:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well John, let's see.  Sadam invaded Kuwait, our friends and threatened to screw up their oil supply to us and did infact set 700+ of the oil wells on fire.  We drove him back home where he thumbed his nose at the world and threatened to kill everyone he could with his WMD.  The UN told(ordered) him to open up to inspections (victors' spoils for him losing his war in Kuwait).  He wiped out most of his own countrymen in the north with gas (that's a WMD) because of religious differences, and threatened to do us all the same way..  He harbored all sorts of terrorist groups and supplied them with money to attack the great white satan wherever they could.  He fired many of his SCUDs  at Isreal (more of our friends) for religious differences. I'm thinking that if he hadn't invaded Kuwait, shot SCUDs at Isreal, pointed his mouth/guns at US, we probably would have let him plunder his own countrymen at will. Just where do you think we should start scrubbing out the toilet?  Is there a proper method and protocal for dealing with this terrorist mess?  I'm thinking it's a lot like hunting ducks.  You aim your shotgun at the crowd and pull the trigger.  You can't expect to get them all with the 1st shot but if you knock down the biggest, loudest, nastiest bully of them all, you start getting the attention of the others. You sound like you would rather negotiate. Dave   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, why are we in Iraq. No Iraqi's were hijackers. Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia. I can understand going after Osama but he isn't in Iraq. We are just invading countries blindly and wrongly.   john Dave (what's a quad?)