From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'William Willis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: RE: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:17:08 -0500 I couldn't agree more. Another despicable truth about VR is their budget distribution. Approximately 75%-80% of each state's combined state and federal VR funding goes toward administration. Only 20%-25% of available funds are allocated for VR client needs like tuition, housing, transportation, adaptive equipment. At least this is the case in Georgia. Before receiving services, I was evaluated by VR 4 times to determine if I had a disability that would make me eligible for VR assistance. I am a C4 quad. If this isn't administrative incompetence, I don't know what is.I probably sound like VR's biggest enemy, but this is not the case. I would not have obtained my training and eventual employment without VR assistance.I am grateful for VR, but they do have flaws that cannot be ignored. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: William Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:31 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: FW: RE: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? > > Seems like a very vile and despicable way to evaluate a > counselor. If this is true, the whole system needs to be reworked. > > > >From: "Steve Oldaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Lori Michaelson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Quad'" > ><[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? > >Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:16:45 -0500 > > > >VR counselors are evaluated and rewarded based on how many > cases they close > >and how little money they can spend doing so. That's why VR > counselors > >HATE > >to have a quad added to their caseload. Our cases are typically more > >expensive and time consuming and take longer to close. I > realize there are > >counselors and clients who are exceptions to this generalization, but > >several counselors have acknowledged to me personally that > this is reality. > > > >Steve > > > > > > _____ > > > >From: Lori Michaelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:51 PM > >To: Quad > >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? > > > > > > > >I stayed off campus at home for both a community school and then a > >state school. My aides were still, then, paid by the county. > > > >VR was one of the biggest thorns in going through college smoothly. > > > >Voc Rehab paid for a person to drive me to & from college using my > >van and note-takers. However, VR was a big pain in the ass > >getting them to PAY these folks despite ALL the paper work > >taken care of. It was as if it were coming out of the counselor's > >own checkbook! > > > >I had saints for helpers cuz they waited WEEKS before getting paid. > > > >WHY they (VR) are so stingy EVEN WHEN IT'S ALL CRYSTAL CLEAR > >on the need AND kit being "OK'd" is beyond me. > > > >It's like they have a free pass that says GIVE THESE FOLKS AS HARD > >A TIME AS POSSIBLE. Just because! > > > >Lori Michaelson > >Age - 41 > >C4/5 complete quad, 26 years post > >Tucson, AZ > > > > > >-------Original Message------- > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: 12/17/05 09:31:25 > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] > >Subject: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? > > > >Your Right Willis. That can happen. As a client of VR, you > also become an > >overnite > >employer, as you have to hire your help and make sure that > they sign their > >timesheets > >so that they can be paid. You are also responsible for > making sure they do > >what they are suppose to. How many aides did you go thru > while attending > >college? > >W > > > > > >In a message dated 12/17/05 10:27:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > ><< VR paid for all my college expenses including an aide, > back in the > >'70's. > >They were alway 6-12 months behind though. My aides were > always broke and > >frustrated because they were also students who needed the > money. When I > >could afford it, I paid them myself and let them repay me > when the check > >finally came. VR saved me, though. I couldn't have gone to > college without > >them. Willis >> > > > > > > > > > >
if a non-profit charity were run with those administrative costs, it would
be shut down. And well it should be. Only in the halls of
government........disgusting.
- FW: RE: RE: [QUAD-L] College- worth the effort ?? William Willis
