I know you probably don't think of him as an artist, however, that's what he does.  He makes films in order to bring attention to problems, he's not a politician.  And yes, I think there are many people who are unaware of how bad the healthcare crisis is.  People are especially unaware of those of us dying in nursing homes because insurance won't pay for home health care, or those of us who are unable to marry because of combining incomes and losing benefits.   Please don't let your contempt of this ARTIST get in your way of telling the world your story.  The personal is political.

River


On Feb 16, 2006, at 1:47 PM, QuadPirate wrote:

 I'm with you Silas, he's all about the dollar and exploiting political issues to fatten his pocket.
He might as well be a politician.
I mean if he really wanted to make a difference he'd run for office and try to change these problems instead of making a movie and just talking about them.
Does he really think nobody is aware of how bad health care is?
 
Mark
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Silas
Date: 02/16/06 12:15:27
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Send Me Your Health Care Horror Stories... An Appeal from Michael Moore
 
Hey River,
Is this Michael Moore stuff for real, do you think he gives a shit about our
problems or is he out for the mity dallar?
Curious Silas
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "River Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "quadlist Quad-List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: [QUAD-L] Send Me Your Health Care Horror Stories... An Appeal from
Michael Moore
 
 
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>>
>>
>> I know how popular Michael Moore is on this list *smirk* but I  thought
>> some of you might have stories for him.  I believe he needs  to see the
>> disability perspective as well.  You know...nursing home  imprisonment,
>> medicare
>> problems etc...
>>
>> Peace,
>> River
>>>>
>>>> Friends,
>>>>
>>>> How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've probably
>>>> heard I'm making a documentary about the health care industry (but
>>>> the HMOs don't know this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm
>>>> making a romantic comedy).
>>>>
>>>> If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I keep a
>>>> pretty low profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give
>>>> interviews, I don't go on TV and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I
>>>> do keep my website updated on a daily basis (there's been something
>>>> like 4,000,000 visitors just this week alone) and the rest of the
>>>> time I'm... well, I can't tell you what I'm doing, but you can
>>>> pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking into
>>>> corporate headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair
>>>> black and wearing a skort really helps.
>>>>
>>>> Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found
>>>> yourself getting ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay
>>>> your kid's hospital bill, and then you say to yourself, "Boy, I
>>>> sure would like to be in Michael Moore's health care movie!"?
>>>>
>>>> Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for an
>>>> operation they should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself,
>>>> "Now THIS travesty should be in that 'Sicko' movie!"?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to have to
>>>> just, well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get
>>>> better -- and it's then that you say, "Damn, what did I do with
>>>> Michael Moore's home number?!"
>>>>
>>>> OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the goods on
>>>> these crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie
>>>> and let the world see what the greatest country ever in the history
>>>> of the universe does to its own people, simply because they have
>>>> the misfortune of getting sick. Because getting sick, unless you
>>>> are rich, is a crime -- a crime for which you must pay, sometimes
>>>> with your own life.
>>>>
>>>> About four hundred years from now, historians will look back at us
>>>> like we were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the
>>>> laughing stock of the Western world.
>>>>
>>>> So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with your
>>>> insurance company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at
>>>> all, or how the hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if
>>>> they did, how they sent you into poverty trying to pay their crazy
>>>> bills) ...if you have been abused in any way by this sick, greedy,
>>>> grubby system and it has caused you or your   loved ones great
>>>> sorrow and pain, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you -- and
>>>> what IS happening to you right now if you have been unable to get
>>>> the health care you need. Send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I
>>>> will read every single one of them (even if I can't respond to or
>>>> help everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your
>>>> stories).
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me to
>>>> try and do something about a very corrupt system that simply has to
>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical
>>>> company or a profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too
>>>> much abuse of your fellow human beings and can't take it any longer
>>>> -- and you would like the truth to be told -- please write me at
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I will protect your privacy and I will
>>>> tell the world what you are unable to tell. I am looking for a few
>>>> heroes with a conscience. I know you are out there.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued support
>>>> through the years. I promise you that with "Sicko" we will do our
>>>> best to give you not only a great movie, but a chance to bring down
>>>> this evil empire, once and for all.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Michael Moore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> You are currently subscribed to Mike's Message as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
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>>>> To unsubscribe click on the link below:
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>>>>
>>>> Date: February 3, 2006 4:50:21 AM EST
>>>> Subject: Send Me Your Health Care Horror Stories... An Appeal from
>>>> Michael Moore
>>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2/3/06
>>>>
>>>> Friends,
>>>>
>>>> How would you like to be in my next movie? I know you've probably
>>>> heard I'm making a documentary about the health care industry (but
>>>> the HMOs don't know this, so don't tell them -- they think I'm
>>>> making a romantic comedy).
>>>>
>>>> If you've followed my work over the years, you know that I keep a
>>>> pretty low profile while I'm making my movies. I don't give
>>>> interviews, I don't go on TV and I don't defrost my refrigerator. I
>>>> do keep my website updated on a daily basis (there's been something
>>>> like 4,000,000 visitors just this week alone) and the rest of the
>>>> time I'm... well, I can't tell you what I'm doing, but you can
>>>> pretty much guess. It gets harder and harder sneaking into
>>>> corporate headquarters, but I've found that just dying my hair
>>>> black and wearing a skort really helps.
>>>>
>>>> Back to my invitation to be in my movie. Have you ever found
>>>> yourself getting ready to file for bankruptcy because you can't pay
>>>> your kid's hospital bill, and then you say to yourself, "Boy, I
>>>> sure would like to be in Michael Moore's health care movie!"?
>>>>
>>>> Or, after being turned down for the third time by your HMO for an
>>>> operation they should be paying for, do you ever think to yourself,
>>>> "Now THIS travesty should be in that 'Sicko' movie!"?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe you've just been told that your father is going to have to
>>>> just, well, die because he can't afford the drugs he needs to get
>>>> better -- and it's then that you say, "Damn, what did I do with
>>>> Michael Moore's home number?!"
>>>>
>>>> OK, here's your chance. As you can imagine, we've got the goods on
>>>> these crooks. All we need now is to put a few of you in the movie
>>>> and let the world see what the greatest country ever in the history
>>>> of the universe does to its own people, simply because they have
>>>> the misfortune of getting sick. Because getting sick, unless you
>>>> are rich, is a crime -- a crime for which you must pay, sometimes
>>>> with your own life.
>>>>
>>>> About four hundred years from now, historians will look back at us
>>>> like we were some sort of barbarians, but for now we're just the
>>>> laughing stock of the Western world.
>>>>
>>>> So, if you'd like me to know what you've been through with your
>>>> insurance company, or what it's been like to have no insurance at
>>>> all, or how the hospitals and doctors wouldn't treat you (or if
>>>> they did, how they sent you into poverty trying to pay their crazy
>>>> bills) ...if you have been abused in any way by this sick, greedy,
>>>> grubby system and it has caused you or your loved ones great sorrow
>>>> and pain, let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Send me a short, factual account of what has happened to you -- and
>>>> what IS happening to you right now if you have been unable to get
>>>> the health care you need. Send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I
>>>> will read every single one of them (even if I can't respond to or
>>>> help everyone, I will be able to bring to light a few of your
>>>> stories).
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance for sharing them with me and trusting me to
>>>> try and do something about a very corrupt system that simply has to
>>>> go.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and if you happen to work for an HMO or a pharmaceutical
>>>> company or a profit-making hospital and you have simply seen too
>>>> much abuse of your fellow human beings and can't take it any longer
>>>> -- and you would like the truth to be told -- please write me at
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I will protect your privacy and I will
>>>> tell the world what you are unable to tell. I am looking for a few
>>>> heroes with a conscience. I know you are out there.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you, all of you, for your help and your continued support
>>>> through the years. I promise you that with "Sicko" we will do our
>>>> best to give you not only a great movie, but a chance to bring down
>>>> this evil empire, once and for all.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, stay well. I hear fruits and vegetables help.
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Michael Moore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> You are currently subscribed to Mike's Message as: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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