Consumers of junk -- we certainly are! I have 6 vcr's and three dvd players stashed in my closet. None of em work but it was cheaper to buy another than to repair them. Guess what it says on every one of them......................MADE IN CHINA!


From: "RollinOn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "RollinOn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 16:29:40 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

Who's talking about Wal-Mart closing it's doors?
I'd just like to see some American jobs come back and see those shelves once again lined with quality American made products that made Wal-Mart a success
in the begining.
It doesn't affect the food products in the store at all but whyfill your
house with junk you don't need just because it's cheap which is what a lot
of shoppers end up doing because they're impulse buyers.
We are a country of consumers of junk, let's save that cash to pay a little
more for a product you really need.
How can bringing back American factories and American made products be bad
for our country?
That's just plain non informed to even think such a thought.
Why does anyone think giving the Chinese government 80 Billion dollars a
year is a smart thing to do?
What do you think they're investing in? It's people?
How about making products here and over seas and let the consumer decide
which one to buy.
I bet they'd be surprised at the out come because there's a lot of people
that think investing in American jobs is a good thing.


Mark

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 07/15/06 20:48:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart

If Walmart closed, all the workers in all countries affected would be
looking for jobs elsewhere.  Here, burger flippers and restaurant waiters
would see new competition for their jobs.  All newly unemployed would
certainly be looking for any source of income they could find. Our welfare,
food stamp, and other social programs would certainly feel the pinch.  I'm
sure those of us already on government programs would feel the pinch sooner
or later.  I love to visit mom & pop places too and there are still plenty
around here (Phoenix) to satisfy anyone's thirst.
Dave


In a message dated 7/15/2006 5:36:29 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Once again, if Americans were loyal to American-made products and shop at
the Marshall Field/Sears Roebuck/Carson/etc./stores there would be no market
for Wal-Mart.  However we cannot have our cake and eat it too.  We can't
keep factories making good quality products here in America and selling them
for top dollar in order to support the wages and benefits, cash our
paychecks and then complain about the price of the products we made.

I worked 20 years for Sears and they were accused also a low-wage hiring
practices but they offered a very good profit-sharing plan.  I watched
janitors retire with hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock options.
Wal-Mart is very similar.  They offer their employees a chance to invest
into company profit-sharing but have little in the way of overall benefits.
I have been at both ends of the scale and now that I collect disability I
understand what it is like to be poor.  A good education doesn't guarantee
that you will win the economical race but it will assure you a spot at the
starting gate.

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart


At 03:44 PM 7/15/2006 -0500, tahouston said something that elicited my
response:


If Wal-Mart moves into your community, the community can vote it out by
continuing to shop at the mom-and-pop stores.  If you took the average wage
of the so-called illegal immigrants sweeping the floors at night, they still
would not be paying taxes.  Sometimes Americans forget that poor people do
not pay taxes. Most people in the lower tax brackets get between 90 to 100%
refund.

I'm one of those working poor and it's true we get back most all of the
federal income tax BUT we don't get back the Medicare tax!


There can be a Wal-Mart in the neighborhood and you can still continue to
shop where ever you would like.

Trouble is, Wally Mart drives out all the other shops. I used to shop at one
of our local Wally Marts until they got so big it was more of a chore to
shop there (huge lines at check out, takes 20 minutes to get from one end of the store to the next - and they keep moving things around so you are forced
to hunt for what you need. Of course they do this so you will impulse buy
while your searching for what you really need) than to go to several other
stores to get what you need.


Most Americans live hurried lives.  They enjoy the cheap prices and a
one-stop shop. As I was driving by the Ford Motor Company assembly plant in
Illinois, I notice most of the employee cars in the parking lot were
foreign-made. We all say we would like to invest into American products but
deep down inside we refuse to pay the higher prices.

As for cars, it wasn't the price but rather the quality that made Americans
switch to foreign cars.

Dan V


T. Houston C5 C6
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart


No one should be forced to hire someone or sell something. But not all
Malmart employees pay taxes. They have been busted a number of times paying
illegals to clean up at night… off the books. The rues you mentioned to
get on Malmart’s shelves…should not include firing American workers and
moving to China. I for one don’t mind paying a bit more, if it helps the
economy and local mom and pop stores. I love “walking” around little
areas of stores fronts. I know a hat might be cheaper at Walmart, but the
day of fun was worth it. When Walmat moves in, they close down. Our city is now trying to redevelop their tiny downtown area. Building many townhouses,
small shops, restaurants. Trying to make it a small urban area. Where you
can live, and walk to all the stores you need. It’s a very cute and fun
area. If Malmart moves in, it would close many of the store and soon have
empty buildings again. It’s all a quality of life issue. You like quick
one stop shopping… I like looking around, going to corner farmers markets
and looking through stores in a shopping village. It’s fine to have both,
but Malmart wants to be “The Only” J. Leave at least a few corners for
the little guys…
Greg



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wal-Mart
Americans are jobless because they won't work for the same wages.
I think all US-WALMART employees pay US taxes.   If you mean the Chinese
workers,  NO Chinese worker pays US taxes.   American companies can get on
WALMART's shelves, they just have to follow Walmart's rules.   The internet
is also as great place to hawk one's wares.  Bossing Walmart around is a
poor substitute for smarting up and beating them at their own game.
Are you suggesting that Walmart should dismiss all foreign labor and hire
only American workers at whatever the Americans will consent to work for
because that's the loyal thing to do?  You think they should voluntarily or
be forced to hire expensive labor and live with the losses?  Are you ready
to pay more for everything on the shelves at Walmart?
After forcing Walmart to do the loyal thing, will you go after the oil
industry to roll back prices to the 1950 level?  They are both in the
fantasy realm you know.
Dave

Dave www.daveoconnell.com c3-inc-1967


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