I don't know why God lets children die. Why do we let children die? We will 
kill hundreds of thousands for oil. Is it because so many are the wrong color? 
I don't think a sermon on Christianity is going to help a child in end-stage 
cancer. The drug companies spent 22 billion to R&D viagra, and women want fake 
boobs so badly that it is a 10+ billion dollar industry. Where do we get off 
giving God a hard time? We have children dieing here in America yet we use our 
money to buy books oprah tells us made her fat life better. If we spent the 
money we spend on weapons to feed children, we wouldn't have starving children.
 
john
 
 
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Sent: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] God, and Heaven-Hell


I totally agree Dan,
That’s what I have a problem with, if we are his children how can he stand by 
and watch his small kids starve to death or die by aids at 2-3 years old and a 
lot of people will never even hear the word Jesus or God but they go to hell 
because of geography?
I don’t buy it, if my father was to sit by and watch me suffer and did nothing 
and at the same time preached to me about love thy fellow man and treat people 
like you would like to be treated. How can I have more compassion than God if 
he is the great one?
 
Just my opinion, 
 
Mark Jackson
   RollinOn
 



From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] God, and Heaven-Hell
 
If one believes in the goodness of God, then I don't see how they can believe 
in Hell. I think I'm a relatively good person and having said that, I could 
never send anyone to Hell where they would endure everlasting torture. Where is 
the goodness in that? Are we not taught that God is all knowing and all loving 
and forgives us of our sins? As Jesus said as he was dying on the cross 
"Forgive them Father for they do not know what they do". He didn't say "Hey 
Dad, send these bastards to Hell".

We are like children to God. Imagine that you are the parents of twin 4 year 
old boys. They are playing at the top of a flight of stairs. One of them gets 
angry with the other and pushes him down the flight of stairs knowing well that 
the child will get hurt and the child dies. The surviving twin shows no remorse 
since most 4 year olds haven't yet developed that capacity. Would you as their 
parent/God send this child to Hell?   

Dan V

At 03:18 PM 4/15/2007 -0400, Steve Oldaker said something that elicited my 
response:
  


Dan...
 
What if you live a truly good life and do not deny the existence of God, Heaven 
and Hell, but do not have a core belief that they do in fact exist? Would it 
not be hypocritical to state that you do believe in their existence just in 
case?
 
The big problem I have with many organized religions is you either accept and 
believe, or you are doomed, regardless of how well you have lived your life and 
the goodness in your heart and deeds. This is particularly true with Christian 
religions.
 
FWIW, I do believe in a supreme being (a.k.a. God), hope there is a Heaven, and 
hope there is not a Hell. Pretty sure about the first one, not sure about the 
last two.
 
Steve



From: Danny Hearn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:29 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [QUAD-L] God, and Heaven-Hell 
       If you live a good life as IF there really IS a God and Heaven or Hell 
and die to find out it was not true--YOU LOST NOTHING.    BUT  IF you live and 
deny God and Heaven Or Hell and DIE to find out THERE IS a GOD and it's All 
TRUE-----------{{YOU LOST EVERYTHING.}} But God wants no robots, that's why he 
gave Mankind free will and choices. As a matter of fact he even granted his 
Angels free will....When Lucifer Tried to overthrow God, He took 1/3 of God's 
angels with him by decieving them to follow him.    
                                                                                
                    Dan H. 


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