I love Ron Reagan's take on the subject. But having said that, I understand
there are a multitude of people that have a completely different, and in
their eyes justifiable, view.

Here is Ron Reagan's response to what he thought about the president's veto.

"Well, There is no surprise here. He said he would veto it. This is
basically the same legislation he vetoed before. It is scientifically
unsound, his position, and it is morally incoherent, as well. The White
House implies that by destroying these pre-embryos—they're not technically
embryos—pre-embryos or blastocyst, that you are committing what is
tantamount to murder.

At the same time, we are talking about in-vitro fertilization clinic
pre-embryos here that are kept in cold storage. At the same time, he ignores
the fact that 400,000 or so, as many as half a million of these embryos,
will simply be destroyed otherwise, if nothing else is done with them.

So, apparently, if you use these pre-embryos to develop life-saving
therapies, you are committing murder. If you throw them into a dumpster,
however, that appears to be, I don't know, spring cleaning perhaps."

Later, when Reagan was engaged in a discussion with another panel member,
who basically said the government should be involved in the adult stem
cells, but shouldn't be in the embryonic (I did abbreviate his comments),

he responded " Morality is about suffering and blastocysts do not suffer.

People suffer. People with myriad conditions and diseases, who are waiting
for cures and treatment, suffers. And that's what embryonic stem cell
research holds out promises, relieving that suffering."
Anyway, that's my two cents.  I am sure there are people on this list who
entirely disagree with this stance.
Quadius

On 6/21/07, John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Eric, there is no so. I am a Christian and I will try to forgive him for
his sins against the world, the people of America and God.
Maybe his good friend Putin will give him a bowl of dioxin soup while they
brag about who has made more rich friends wealthier and laugh at the
starving.

john



----- Original Message ----
From: Eric W Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 10:56:40 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Vetoed again

  ok, i'll bite, and so................


Eric W Rudd
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 -----Original Message-----
*From:* John S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:24 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Vetoed again

 I think his dedication to the pursuit of ignorance should earn him a
reward. I was surprized the pope didn't dope slap him half to death. It
isn't as though you can laugh him off anymore.

john


----- Original Message ----
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To: RollinOn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:05:08 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Vetoed again

The prick did it again?



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 -----Original Message-----
*From:* RollinOn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:20 PM
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*Subject:* [QUAD-L] Vetoed again

 Well itʼs official!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070620/pl_nm/bush_stemcells_dc_6





Mark Jackson

   RollinOn





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