picky, picky, picky....next thing you'll want is a ballot. If you are on his commitee then hes right. You can't make the findings public untill the city has had time to address them. You are suppose to spot them, point them out and then wait for a bribe to shut up. If your not on his commitee you can do as you please in finding violations and pointing them out. The ADA has provisions for negotiating the remedies to the problem.
On the other hand, It took them six years to remedy the polling place I went to. It had 3 steps up to get inside where you imediately walked down three steps. Obviously built by an architech that believed in making things hard on everyone. Have you tried your local public buildings, such as town halls, schools, theaters, restaurants, hotels, motels, etc. I have found buildings 5 years old that are "grandfathered" in. TGIFridays are about the worst as a restaurant chain. Amuzement parks, no freakin way do they want crips on the property. The city hall in my city is on the second floor with 14 steps and no elevator or plans to correct any shortcomings. If I were elected to city counsel I couldn't take part in a single meeting. I am welcome to protest as long as I don't block the door. I was fined $35 for running my chair in the street. The mayor brought his desk to the firestation to levy the fine and when I told them I'd rather goto jail it was revoked. Can't get a wheelchair in the jail and frankly, nobody cares that much. welcome to America and the ADA. john ----- Original Message ---- From: Elizabeth Treston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:37:09 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] taking down website I would check into that....seems odd. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower Speaking of things legal..... I was asked by the city 'fathers' to take down my website ( old Glendale Commission on Persons With Disabilities (GCOPD) ) where I had pictures of local voting places and described the shortfalls in regards to handicapped accessibility that we the mayor's commission on persons with disabilities were chartered to inspect. They claimed it was 'improper' to put city oriented research and info on a private website and could possibly lead to legal implications. When my district representative called, she wondered why we were doing that activity anyway. Talk about the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.... then cloaking it all in legaleeze mumbo jumbo. Dave In a message dated 10/1/2007 10:08:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been on two commitees to design and build housing locally for handicapped people. One thing I learned was handicapped people are hard on bathroom floors. If you treat the entire bathroom like its the floor of the shower, cleanups and mildew are much simpler to handle. It's expensive at 1st, but you save big on disasters that you don't have. Extreme home makeovers have products they want to sell. Disability products are such a small part of the remodeling market, I'd rather bet on getting struck by lightening on a sunny day. I'd be happy to live in an apartment that I helped get built but somehow, being on the commitee would make my living there a conflict of interest. The first handicapped accesible section 8 apartments I worked on are now filthy slums where the term disability was twisted to mean alcoholic and drug addict. On my last visit there were no machines in the laundry room. they had been sold by a tennant that was mentally ill. The building security system no longer existed and the entire first floor was being run by a pimp. The city claimed they spent 20g a year on security. You guessed it, the pimp got 20g a year. The city has since sold it to a judge. (the uncle of the pimp) The second building I worked on was to be run by local presbytery under Bush's plan to let charities take over things the gov't sucks at. That is suspended untill the federal gov't finds money it isn't sending to Iraq. Sure feel bad for the crippled soldiers coming back. I'm trying to get the city interested in a building strictly for spinal cord injuries that require wheelchairs but no takers yet. As one councilman said, "we already have all the good parking places!" Where ever you're at, don't give up. Remember, Only lawyers believe lawyers are needed. Keep them out. They are put on earth to make sure we all believe in hell. good luck, john ----- Original Message ---- From: Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Quadlist <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 12:05:51 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower DO YOU LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY? MAYBE THEY WOULD DO THIS ON EXTREME HOME MAKEOVER. ----- Original Message ----- From: John S. To: Tim Thompson ; Nichole Rohling Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower You really do need a shower chair, but I found these bathrooms need a copper subfloor with a special tile that drains to a universal drain in the bathroom. The tile has microgrooves to direct the water to the drain and theres very little tilt. The copper subfloor is needed because anything you do may fail in one or more places and the copper can also be designed to drain. I like putting a heated cement subfloor below the copper. Along with a vent fan the bathroom needs a small fan stirring the air for about 10 minutes after you leave it. It should be set to turn on every 12 hours if its not used. This helps stop mold and mildew from forming. john ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:16:11 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower Ha ha, You need a SHOWER CHAIR. And no, they're not elec. stunt On 9/30/07, Nichole Rohling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only problem is me and my electric chair together weigh over 400 lbs. I have mirrors in my corner shower so I can wheel in at an angle and fix my hair and I turn sideways to put on my make-up - I don't think fiberglass or pre-fab could hold the weight without it eventually cracking. i'd like to pour concrete and have my entire bathroom concrete ----- Original Message ----- From: RONALD L PRACHT To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] About the roll in shower Hey, When I was trying to get my roll-in done I discovered a few things. Home Depot and Lowes have catalogs with various types of pre-made i believe fiberless roll in showers that can be ordered through them. My x gf had one put one in and it was pretty easy to install. All you do is build a stud(2x4) frame the size of the insert and slide the insert in. One prob was there was still a small lip to get over to get in shower. This could be solved by dropping the floor height where the insert is to be installed by 3/4 inch then it would be an even entrance pretty much. Just make sure you get a big enough shower. ron c7 Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
