the invacare TDX models do well. Like the peremobile they have a shortage of leg & foot protection unless your DME will add it to make the sale. Obviously, a peremobile is a buick and the Invacare is a Chevy. The peremobile is more than just smooth. It has a well deserved reputation. I know a guy that has had a Peremobile for 20 years. My TDX is 4 years old and it has a cute grinding sound when backing up to the right. When I start out in the morning I have to recline while my aid is there to help it sit up and remember what sitting up is. The 1st few times it sits up each day it tries just making the sound that it is sitting up. When I called Invacare, they said to just turn off the power and then try sitting up after I turn the power back on. My DME ordered the part and they are coming tomorrow to to replace it. It has done it before. Now if the Peremobile needs a service call, they can't fix it at your home. Just getting the wheels off a Peremobile is a major job. I don't know what the crash test results are. My chair is just passing 8900 hours. I had an Invacare Storm series. It resembles the peremobile front wheel drive except it is usually set up in rear wheel drive. It was awfull riding. Handling was pathetic. for speed, it was easily the fastest chair I ever owned and batteries were huge. It is my backup if this chair suddenly dies or goes for a week or two. Before that I had an E&J premier. I never got a sore in it but it was like driving a freight train with no suspension at all. Dependable and dangerous. I know this group has had some awesome chairs. in Ohio it is a matter of what you're willing to deal with and if the people helping you care if you get a decent chair. You need to write up a minimum that your willing to live with for 5 to 7 years. You can ask for a nightime outdoor package. you might not get it but act like you're making a big sacrifice. Ohyea, get a power plug for your laptop. MyDesc has some nice desktops for most chairs. Ask your Dr. to specifically perscribe things you really want. Don't forget the electric leg bag drain. I have seen people stop getting out of bed because their chair was so incredibly uncomfortable.
----- Original Message ---- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 3, 2008 9:46:00 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Permobil Lori Yea this is my first Permobil. This is only my second chair--my first was a Quickie P-222. Back pain is part of the reason I got the Permobil. I'm very active always doing a lot of transfers, moving my body all the time, and riding my handcycle (my body gets exausted). So when I found a chair that was smooth, low, could recline, and was sexy I jumped all over it. Don't get me wrong I tested many other power chairs in a rehab setting before I settled on this one. Even the c-350's big brother the Permobil Street (too tall). In the end,the c-350 had everything I wanted and needed in a small package. When I'm do for a battery change my vendor comes to my residence, not the other way around. Luke -----Original Message----- From: Lori Michaelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Quad List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] New Permobil FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; I have had my Permobil Chairman since 1999 and I also have the three features that you have. IF the next chair that I choose will be a Permobil... I will get the seat elevator also. That has been the most difficult problem when trying to change the batteries. I have to be out of the chair (and for me... that means in bed) while my husband takes it to the vendor and takes God knows how long to get that done. Factoring in that they have to order the batteries to begin with. I am keeping a list of all the chairs that other people are happy with but I am so used to the Permobil now that I am leery about changing. But for many vendors... The Permobils are not a "common chair" to work on so that is a problem also and a good one to consider. The other feature that has been the greatest problem for me is the height compared to the two other wheelchairs I have had since my injury. No matter how much they lowered it when I first got it... I still have a problem fitting under tables, can barely see out of my van windows to enjoy a drive, etc. etc. Etc.. I do not know whether this is a fluke or not but besides myself... I have learned of about three other people on this list who have had more back pain with their Permobils. But I really do not know if it is the chair or my body. I had the vendors come back three different times to put more cushioning in the back but it is nowhere close to being as comfortable as my old Fortress Scientific wheelchair that I had for 12 years prior to this one. Is this your first Permobil? Lori Michaelson Age - 43 C4/5 complete quad, 28 years post Tucson, AZ -------Original Message------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/3/2008 3:08:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [QUAD-L] New Permobil Hooooooray! Not sure if any of you guys have seen or tested the latest chair from Permobil, but its nice. I ordered my c-350 corpus in December and just delivered it. It comes with many options I opted for the tilt, recline, and foot elevator. You can also get the seat elevator. There are three things I told the lady OT who helped me pick the chair out: (1)It had to ride smooth (2)It had to have a low seat to floor height and (3) IT HAD TO BE SEXY!!! I'll try to put some picks of it up on myspace in the next few days. We'll see how well it holds up to the amount of college campus miles I'm gonna put on it. Luke- c-5/6 incomplete 7 1/2 yrs post ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

