I like the Fins. They are as you say, brutal, honest and will tell you what is on their minds. LOL, I've also met several others in Europe that were the same. Same could be said here in the good old USA. People are people with likes and dislikes. I hope you enjoy Finland and the 12 months of winter, or it seems like that at times. It will be much different then the climate you are used to. Perhaps that is why the USA is still the #1 spot chosen by those in other countries to vacation and holiday. I hope that you will successful in some of their customs and practices observed in Finland. I tried it here a couple of times and was almost arrested. I think you know my point in saying that where ever you travel, there are nice people and those who aren't so nice. Best Wishes In a message dated 7/26/2008 3:29:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well youre right..and i'm not disputing that..i probably should have asked the question differently but i was being direct ..something the finns appreciate . It wasn't so much as what he said but how he said it ..and his views are not shared by most others in that forum. I also retract that last thing i said in my post here ..i mainly just am interested in getting the opinions of other disabled people on this. Not really asking you to join my fight ...but i wont discourage it either if someone wants to voice something . The man totaly judged me as useless at the mere mention of a chair. and yes ..i'm appalled. It isnt the views of all finns . I really dont want to go there ..i love my country and dont care to leave it . It's been very good to me . But this is a matter of the heart ...and well ..i'm going for that reason alone. I dont think i blame him for not wanting people to come in and leech his tax euro's..we have that unpleasant problem here. I do have a problem with how he can think thats my sole intention just because i'm in a chair. But thanks man .. Darel- _http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper_ (http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper) ____________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:58:48 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: [QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there. We American have a way of telling other countries how to lead their lives, government and establish their laws. Maybe that is why we are often considered "Ugly Americans" as we travel abroad. When you leave the protection of American soil, you also lose the protection of the Americans With Disabilities, along with many other laws of our country. It is also pretty common with the human population that what we don't understand, we fear. And that which we fear, we reject. I personally don't know the person in Finland who has chosen to respond to your posted question in a Finland newspaper. Actually, I don't know you that well, with all due respect. I do know that long before July of 1992 there were many people in this country that felt the same way and would have responded to your posting in an American Newspaper in like fashion. That is purely... human nature. Granted, its not very nice, but very human. For me personally, I choose my battles here in the USA. I'm not going to go abroad and tell those in another country that I wish to enter their country and live as I did in "Good Ole USA." To some personalities, it is considered "baiting" and you will received some emotional responses as you have witness. Could you possible imagine someone in South America, in a wheelchair, posting in an American Newspaper inquiring about "Quick Entry" into the United States. I would imagine the very same kind of response as you witnessed in Finland. I wish for you the very best and much success in your endeavor to live in Finland. But I won't hop the International Band Wagon and challenge those in other country about their laws and practices. I sincerely hope that you and your new spouse will do well and that you will find a rewarding occupation while a member of the Finland Population. But getting involved in your argument....... no thanks. Best Wishes W In a message dated 7/26/2008 4:03:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey freinds..dunno if you remember a post i made awhile back about flying to Finland to be with my girlfriend and get married. I need to get a residence permit in order to stay there more than 90 days. She has 3 kids and it wouldnt be right to take them from their dad and his side of the family ..plus theycant speak english so her coming here isnt really an option at this point. She was here for a couple of weeks over the 4th of july ..loves America but ..we just cant live here until the kids grow up a bit and choose to live with dad or come with mom here. Anyway ..we decided to go to a forum and get advice on the best way to get a residence permit for me to live in Finland and you will not believe the first reply i got . This moron thinks if youre in a wheelchair your useless .. plain and simple ..dont come here cripple and leech off me! I couldnt believe my eyes ..he has no idea who i am . Yet because i mentioned the chair ..i'm a useless leech! I argued a bit with him and my g/f asked me to stop because it was upsetting her. So ..i did and i'm about to explode. He's still spewing his ignorant views even though others in the forum have told him what a rude ass he's being . I thought some of you might be interested in seeing the height of narrow minded views of the handicap and the use of the word "cripple" ..he's probably anti American too. Anyway ..go have a look if you want ..feel free to let him know a few things as i was told to stop way before i was done. Heres the link : _http://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32254&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=477a1c1ceacaa71017d65a76d777f4a1_ (http://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32254&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=477a1c1ceacaa71017d65a76d777f4a1) Darel- _http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper_ (http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper) ____________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. _Connect on the go._ (http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008) = ____________________________________ Get fantasy football with free live scoring. _Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today_ (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) . ____________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need. _Enter Now!_ (http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm) = **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. 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