damn it guess i will finis 1 mail b4 i send....my concern was "u give  the dog 
treats 2 do something???"  thats teaching she needs 2 do something 4 
reward......set the reward in ur 'lap'...have her do something 2 earn 
reward...not much of a reward if unearned

merril i don't know ur situation, but by what is written i'd like 2

Eric W Rudd
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lori Michaelson 
  To: Merrill ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: FW: [QUAD-L] Pick up ball?


  Perfect reply!  I went to one of our two local places that teach you to train 
your own dogs.  Learn clicker training and you'll have it down pat!  Look into 
Handi-dogs in Phoenix Greg.

  Lori


  On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    To gain desired consistent behavior from your dog, you must be consistent 
in training and interaction.  I believe if you do not give a treat until 
desired behavior is achieved, then to give a treat EVERYTIME as you daily work 
with the dog.  My retriever, now service dog was the hardest head to get into 
retrieving until I made it a mission which took a couple of months.  Only after 
retrieve is spontaneous should you cut down dependency on treats.  Some dogs 
need to mature before getting the idea but once it clicks it will be forever.  
Low calorie Cherrieos work as treats, do not over feed, be consistent, and 
believe.  A tennis ball with a rope through makes for a great toy.  Get dog 
used to assorted objects.  Dog training requires patients



    Merrill


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    From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
    Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:53 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [QUAD-L] Pick up ball?



    Any ideas on how to pick up a tennis ball from the ground?







    My dog will bring it back, but I just can't get him to bring it up on my 
lap. I've tried tossing a ball on a string and pulling it up, treats, etc. So 
far he will sit and lay down with arm signals, speak, shake, stay. He loves to 
fetch, but he just wont bring it up. I thought I'd try lowering a can with a 
string, if I can get the can to grab the ball without it falling off. I've seen 
kids do it at ball games to get foul balls.

    Thanks,

    G.




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  Lori 
  C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
  Tucson, AZ

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