Mostly agree.

Bottom line... There HAS TO BE a leader of the pack.  A dog UNDERSTANDS THIS
from instinct.

If you want a good pet, a great canine family member, or a service dog --
SOMEONE has to be the pack leader.  And ANY unwanted behavior *all stems
from that.*

Watch at least 10 episodes of The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Milan) who teaches
that.  INCLUDING priming them for being/staying a service dog.

Like a child (subconciously) they want and NEED and live wonderfully WITHIN
SET BOUNDARIES.  Otherwise it can be chaos and a form of abuse in my
opinion.

Lori



On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 7:15 PM, John S. <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Just speaking as a dog lover, I think it is important that anyone
> considering a service dog think about their responsibility toward the dog.
> Don't say things like, "my dog doesn't bite" any dog bites. If your dog is
> growling at other dogs there is a lack of leadership in his life and out of
> frustration, the dog has assumed the mantle. This is a serious problem and
> your dog needs to socialize more and stop making decisions. He is a devout
> follower and in dire need of leadership around you and other dogs. Stop the
> lovey dovey stuff and start controlling him. He is a dog and will only be
> happy as a dog. Service dogs are not pets and should not be a family toy or
> pet. This is exactly why so many trainers refuse to give up dogs to
> handicapped people and sell them to drug enforcement or police K9 units.
> if you don't walk a service dog twice a day and establish a routine of
> training, your dogs talents are being abused. You must do it. It is your job
> as much as it is his. You decide where he can go potty. You decide virtually
> everything including his punishment for growling at other dogs. A simple
> jerk on the leash may be enough, but it must be consistant and timely. I
> don't care if you have a bedsore. That dog has given his life to serve you.
> If you haven't got the health to care for him, pass him on to a master who
> does and will.
> I hear people argue about electronic collars being cruel, but what is
> truely inhumane is people that pretend their dog is a person and not take
> the time to train it. If all you need is a dog to love, go get a dog from
> the pound and buy ceasar milan's books. If you have a service dog than you
> have been told your obligation to that animal.
>
> Happy New Year
> john.
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/28/08, Eric W Rudd <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
> From: Eric W Rudd <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 11:41 PM
>
>
>  exceptional prelude...calm submissive.
>
> Eric W Rudd
> [email protected]
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Merrill <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:44 PM
> *Subject:* FW: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
>
>  You need a refresher class for your dog, but important is YOU.. Being an
> assertive strong leader is often hard for higher injuries, but it is
> necessary.  Your dog has challenged you and believes you not assertive nor a
> leader which is why it feels necessary to take charge.  This can be either a
> challenge to you or a time of reconing and resignation.  You can do it.  If
> frustration is your only short coming, your energy of take charge with
> committed work activates daily with your dog will turn your dogs behavior in
> short time.
>
>
>
> The service dog performs best on a short leech about 20" long.  That leech
> is a conduit from how you feel and act yourself, and to the dog.  Lots of
> communication going on.  This challenge is on going and will bring the best
> out of you if it is going to work.
>
>
>
> Merrill
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:36 PM
> *To:* [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Service Dog Life
>
>
>
> I am very interested in hearing what everybody has to say about the service
> dog life.  I have a C6 complete injury and I ended up going to a private
> organization for my service animal because there was no more waiting list at
> the places I applied.  My service dog was supposed to be three years old
> which would make her seven years old now, the veterinarian agrees with me
> that she is at least 11 or 12.  She is starting to act aggressive towards
> other dogs, hackels up and barking, although she would never hurt anyone or
> anything.  I just moved to a place where I can go anywhere I want any time
> and now I cannot go because she acts like this.  It seems like one day I am
> so frustrated that I want to give her another home and the next day I feel
> guilty for even thinking about giving her away.  I can't go anywhere without
> her and they can't take her anywhere.
>
>
>
> Take care and play nice Tammie Lou
> chippertue.com
> Chippertue's World <http://www.chippertue.com/>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/22/2008 11:36:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> *Error! Cannot read or display file.Error! Cannot read or display file.*
>
> My first service dog came to me through an organization.  Years after she
> passed on I was turned down for a successor dog because they thought at C5
>  I was too sick.  So, I thought if I treat my puppy as a service dog, with
> lots of work and training that in time she would become one.
>
>
>
> With my physical limitations getting rewards fast enough was impossible so
> the clicker training technique worked well for us.  I was surprised to what
> a good dog my golden had become even though she was not the class act as my
> first dog.
>
> Do you live mostly indoors confined to mostly your dg's company?  My health
> is not what it was, and at times I do feel that I am not satisfying all  her
> needs.  Last month this family cared for her for several weeks.  Wonderful
> people. They had given my dog such care I never could which has made my dog
> so very happy.
>
>
>
> My point to all of this is I am interested in how active you are and if you
> too are shut indoors most of the day?  I am feeling so self centered taking
> her back now that it is time for her to return because I cannot compete to
> her life with a really family much more active than I.  Do you believe that
> it is true I am all she wants?  Do you have a strong family or supportive
> people around you which helps not being restrictive?  Was the service dog
> organization right in their judgment of me in your mind?
>
>
>
> *Merrill*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *From:* William Willis [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2008 9:03 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* FW: [QUAD-L] Exercise
>
>
>
>
> Joan, you are one tough cookie. I am a c-5 and I don't think I have
> anything near  your gumption and zest. Hang tough and God bless. Willis
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:04:32 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise
>
> Way to go Joan!
>
> Dan
>
>
> At 11:33 PM 12/21/2008, Joan Anglin said something that elicited my
> response:
>
>
> Lucinda
> I am a C4 complete. October 1990, fell off scaffolding in my barn. Shoulder
> shrug is it. I have had to have three tracheotomies, but fortunately for me
> I was able to get off of each trach within a couple of weeks.
> I have an omega trac wheelchair, very powerful even if it is not very fast,
> and have not tipped myself over since I bought it. It has given me a very
> confident and safe lifestyle, especially now that I have a German shepherd
> puppy-now eight months who is already helping me out. She can open most
> doors, is very calm in stores, loves children and will sit to shake hands
> with them without command, and of course she is a great conversation
> opening.
> I have always been an independent person, and really enjoy getting out by
> myself. With my cell phone, Elfie my German shepherd, and my omega trac Im
> good to go. We have joined a German shepherd Schaeferhunde Gruppe (in a
> former life I trained German shepherds in Germany, and I am very much
> looking forward to taking Elfie through her SchH1 degree in a couple of
> years. However, I will be the first one to admit that it is a whole bunch
> more difficult training a dog when you cannot use your arms. She has had to
> learn to step up on my wheelchair to get a treat from my mouth. I am now
> working with the silent whistle as my whistle left me when I broke my neck.
> J
> Sorry to go on. I am just very excited about all the things that seem to be
> happening in my life. I'll be 70 next April, and we are trying very hard to
> get me certified to go scuba diving in Honduras . Everyone around me scuba
> dives, and now I figure it's my turn. Have a great day. Joan
>
> *From:* LTeasley [ mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 21, 2008 2:12 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise
>
> Joan,
> what level is your injury? using a chin control suggests pretty high, but
> with your prior talk of going around the property, i thought somewhat low.
> regardless, it sounds courageous.
> lucinda
> c45 complete?
> july 31, '05
> mpls., mn
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/21/08, Joan Anglin <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
> From: Joan Anglin <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Exercise
> To: "'Merrill'" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 12:00 PM
>
> Ouch, the suspender idea could be very uncomfortable? Of course, my
> solution for the quad gut is a bodysuit, which is not uncomfortable for me,
> but is difficult for my attendants. I?ve gotten so used to it that I feel
> uncomfortable without it. And I agree with Lori, that one of the biggest
> problems it is my butt spreading sideways. LOLI still wear a size 10, but I
> definitely hang over the 16 inch cushion. Oh well, it could be worse.
>
> As far as exercise, my greatest achievement is successfully blowing the
> hair out of my eyes. Seriously, although I cannot do more than a shoulder
> shrug, I really bounce myself around just going around the property. So I
> guess that would qualify as exercise. I still do shoulder exercises with my
> arm in a sling suspended from the ceiling, I?ve never gotten any return, but
> my neck and shoulder muscles are still quite strong. I do not use a
> headrest, since I use a chin control I did not want to be smacked in the
> mouth by a chin controller and on the back of the head by a headrest, and
> that has helped to keep my neck muscles strong.
>
> Those of you in the northeast states stay warm. It?s been cold here, but
> for the most part sunny, with highs in the low twenties. We finally got snow
> several days ago, and it is still hanging around, but nothing like the
> northeast states-thank goodness.
>
> I hope everybody has a great day Joan
>
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Lori
C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ

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