What are ROM and BOFs? thnx, bq
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:10:19 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Clinicians and Technician Chose Quad List....... I just never considered that the Quad List would be required reading in college. But we all continue to learn with each new posting. OT and PT Clinicians work under the orders of Rehab and Medical Doctors. Execution, can happen different with those long term medical conditions vs those who received injuries from traumas. Treatments will also vary considering those who may face a compete and total recovery vs those who not experience recovery, but requires maintenance to sustains one's body. Perhaps one of the students can explain the reason(s) for ROM in spinal cord injuries and why it is so important. The use of BOFs and there benefits. Many on the discussion board were fortunate to have the best in rehabilitation in some of the finest rehab centers, while others were treated at trauma hospitals and then released to their homes without the benefit of a formal rehab program. AD, was one of the major points not discussed in the past, but is so important to some. What more can the OT's offer in their current training programs?? Best Wishes In a message dated 1/22/2009 10:12:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello. I am also an OT student reading the list. Mostly I'm trying to learn what life is like following SCI. I do not assume to have any info that you guys don't already have, as I'm just a student, and you are the ones living with injury for many years. OT teaches us that the client is the expert on themselves, and that we should follow their lead on that. Those on the list who have received OT and PT have all probably had many different experiences. I don't agree with all of the current practices that are out there, but please don't generalize what therapists you have worked with to all OTs or PTs for better or worse. I am not as much an expert on PT, but I think in some cases a certified physical trainer can be used in lieu of a PT, but its the difference between working with a technician and a clinician. An OT and a PT knows the scientific, theoretical, and research basis for what they are doing (or they should), but a physical trainer will probably use a much more "cookbook" approach to treatment. cheers, Julia :) 2009/1/22 <[email protected]> Life changes by the Day, Hours, Minutes and Seconds. I've always been taught in various training that the closer you get to combat... the more obsolete your equipment gets. I imagine, the same could be said about the OT and PT training. In school, under the best of conditions, students are taught those basic ideals of what to expect in the field. However when you graduate and enter the real world, things are different. The patient/client says I need help, but the insurance company paying the bills says, "Not so fast." Rehab Doctor says PT is required, but insurance say we will only pay for limited time with an OT. Rehab Doctor orders OT evaluation, but insurance say we will only pay for an PT. And how does one qualify as a Master Physical Therapist? Can a certified physical trainer be used in lieu of a PT? At one time insurance paid for 120 rehab stay at major rehab hospital with spinal cord trauma injury. Today, those same levels of injury are being released from the hospital, wearing halos, in manual wheelchair for some in-home recovery... if there is such a term. Life is not equal. comments? Best Wishes W In a message dated 1/22/2009 9:01:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: . Let me be more specific in my haste and response to the new students that have recently subscribed to the quadriplegic list. As a former student in the science educational field and supervisor I felt that it was somewhat patronizing that many of us who have been paralyzed for numerous years needed advice from students when I felt it was "we" who would be of more assistance to them. Also, because of my supervisory experience "students" usually require permission from a source if "we" are being part of the classroom assignment. I just felt it odd that two students from the same class would appear on the list. I welcome others to this forum as it is not my position to ban anyone from any forum. I hope this puts an end to any questions or concerns. ________________________________ From: John S. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] students That is entirely possible. Lord knows I need assistance. I'm not trying to be patronizing. If I come across that way it is only because I use narcotics. I certainly apologize if I am doing that to anyone. john. --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Elizabeth Treston <[email protected]> wrote: From: Elizabeth Treston <[email protected]> Subject: [QUAD-L] students To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 9:42 AM Just a heads up. I believe it is we who could assist you. Pease don't be patronizing. ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
