and thats why your still alive 29 yrs later Laurie!!!!!cause you learned from 
your situations Im like you I always expect no help, then if I happen to get it 
thats a bonus, but either way i still survive. Walking folk dont want to 
believe us quads dont sweat. 
 
ron c7 
--- On Sat, 6/13/09, Lori Michaelson <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Lori Michaelson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Getting Stuck
To: "Greg" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:42 PM



As people began ignoring you with you stuck in sand, Greg, and with the heat as 
a factor -- why didn't you use your cell phone to alert family AT LEAST (to be 
safe) rather than waiting hopefully for a possible good samaritan to come by 
next?
 
I now have learned to expect that selfishness or ignorance from people (sadly 
enough) and therefore don't get mysely in any sticky or potentially sticky 
situations.  If *I* saw sand anywhere I wouldn't even get near it.  OR get 
myself in any potentially "iffy" areas where people are few and far between if 
I needed help.
 
I inspect my immediate surroundings VERY as I drive along when out-n-abt 
alone.  Even IF I'd been there before.  A quad died stuck in sand (according to 
Medical Examiner Dr. G) walking her dog on a hot Florida summer day a few years 
ago.  Got overheated when she was supposedly going after her dog by going 
through sand.  Not too smart.  She was also in a semi-secluded park area where 
her calls were not heard or could not be heard of air conditioned brrmmmm 
noises in surrounding buildings.  But not even able-bodied folks were out in 
THAT heat or at the park with their body thermometers working.  She could not 
have been too smart doing what she did.
 
I don't go out and go far alone on hot sunny days here in the desert 
either. It's been hot the last couple days here, Greg, and Phoenix is always a 
bit hotter than here in Tucson.  Ahem!
 
I went the equivalent of 2 blocks with my niece 2 summers ago with the sun 
bearing down at 97 degrees.  Came back and needed to go inside ASAP for A/C.  
She felt fine cuz she lives in VA where it's humid and the desert heat here 
doesn't FEEL as hot.  
 
Anyway, I learned my "heat tolerance" in the 1980s on a hot, humid summer day 
where I'm from in NY State.  A small group of 5 of us at a park under shady 
trees and with drinks.  But it was a SUPER HOT humid day for NY and I just kept 
get getting hotter and hotter.   I was embarrassed so kept quiet as everyone 
else was ok.  STUPID me.  Barely made it to my HOT VAN parked in the sun and 
the 25 min drive home.  I woulda passed out but my Ex began pouring cool water 
over my head at home inside and I was then ok.  ONCE IS ENOUGH to learn.
 
My heat tolerrance is pretty high -- AND I LOVE THE HEAT/WARMTH.  But I ain't 
stoopid enough to push my luck or get into precarious situations after that one 
time in the 1980s.  Or just using common sense.
 
Lori Michaelson
Age - 44
C4/5 complete quad, 29 years post
Tucson, AZ

 
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Greg <[email protected]> wrote:




I walked my dog this morning down to the golf course, we find balls and he 
picks them up and puts them on my feet rest to take home. I was in the back 
parking lot and tried to go over a 5 foot wide dirt patch that connects to a 
golf cart path. I do it all the time, but they spilled sand all over the area. 
Of course I ended up getting stuck in it. I waited about 10 minutes then 2 guys 
(looked about 18 years old) walked up to T-off. I yelled “Can you help me”. 
They looked over, but did nothing. I waited till after they T-offed thinking 
they would help after they hit the balls. I yelled again, but all they did was 
look at me, talk to each other and looked away. As they were walking to the 
next hole, they got closer so I tried 1 more time.  One calls back “How are you 
stuck”. I told him I was stuck in some sand. They just looked at each other and 
kept walking. So I yelled back “You guys are cold blooded.” The next group of 
guys that came by
 helped me out.
            I can’t believe guys would do that. At least I didn’t have to wait 
too long. It was starting to get very hot out.
 
Greg



-- 
Lori 
C4/5 complete quad, 27 years post
Tucson, AZ

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