I agree, but for a much different reason.  Once you get your high, you  
still have to come back down.  Often with those types of drug usuage, one  can 
lose or forget their personal baseline or where "down to earth" is  located. 
 Many long time users end up going from highs to the basement and  below.  
Finding ground level then becomes the challenge. Nothing wrong with  going 
into the "unknowns" of the forest, just make sure that you don't get lost  
and forget your way back to where you began.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2009 10:17:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

No,  meditation does NOT involve using drugs.  Its akin to prayer, but  
agnostic.  It is self-hypnosis that strives to reach  alpha-state.

_http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/184-Relaxation-Technique-6-Entering-alp
ha-state-of-mind-by-yourself.html_ 
(http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/184-Relaxation-Technique-6-Entering-alpha-state-of-mind-by-yourself.html)
   

If you are serious about addressing your problem --which sounds  
psychological rather than physiological-- you shouldn't dismiss and make fun  
of 
suggestions without at least looking at them.

At 11:39 PM  10/11/2009, Steve Crowder wrote:

Good idea -- time to get stoned. Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- 

From:



_bob quinn_ (mailto:[email protected])  

To: _Steve Crowder_ (mailto:[email protected])  ; 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:25 AM

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] This Is Pretty Long -- Sorry


It may sound simplistic, but to deal with your startle response it  sounds 
like you need to learn how to relax.  Have you tried  meditation?  It can 
have amazing, transformative results given a good  teacher/guide and when 
practiced on a regular basis.


At 04:26 AM 10/11/2009, Steve Crowder wrote:



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CRY FOR HELP FOR MY STARTLE RESPONSE







I have a huge problem I need to throw out to you guys. Over the past  six


years, I have developed a severe case of scoliosis, curvature of my  spine. 
The 


curve of my spine, which used to have me shaped like a banana. Now I  am 
even more bent. It gets worse every time I sit in my  wheelchair.





If my body were allowed to assume its natural shape,


then it would be excruciatingly painful. So just about everything I  do, 
from


lying in bed to sitting in my wheelchair, requires compensatory  measures. 
In


bed, I have to roll over on one side of my body, and then back onto  my 
back and somebody takes really guides my legs and a.


When I sit in my wheelchair, as I am right about to sit down, I have  to 
have


someone guide my hips into my seat, otherwise I sit down in a  painful


position. So dealing with that is an issue in itself.





Here's my problem. I've developed a startle response. I startle  at


anything -- anything. The worst is when I'm out in public.  Everything gets 
me. The overhead loudspeaker at stores paging people  announcing things, 
every loud voice, which is almost every voice,  children laughing, babies 
crying, car horns and alarms honking, you name  it -- I get to the point where 
I 
live in a pain, but worse -- my head is  turned almost sideways, which 
kills my neck (I have a C/3-C/6 fusion)  and my only way out is to get out of 
my 
wheelchair 





Something is always getting me when I'm in bed, also. Every time it  
happens,


it puts me into the most horrible pain.  The very worst case is  when I 
jump.


By jump, I mean my body actually moves and my legs go up in the air.  Like I


said, I'm very incomplete and am capable of standing and even taking  some


steps with assistance. But, without going too deeply into the  subject,


bit and I move enough to be placed in agonizing pain. So I need  somebody to


help me work on my startle problem. I have people rolling me like  crazy.





A "roll" is when somebody rolls me onto my side and then back on my  back.


a number of steps involved, and if I startle during one of  the


steps, we have to start all over again, which happens extremely  frequently.


I'm wearing everyone out. It happens throughout the night, and when  I don't


get rolled, the pain is through the roof. I need to find solutions  to the 
following questions:





What do I do to stop? Who should I go to? I have a stage IV pressure  sore 
that will require surgery very soon, and I'll go nuts in the  hospital.


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