Informal Agreement, is actually a weeklong lavish vacations in warm climate 
 to discuss their set prices.
 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2009 2:26:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hello  Greg, Other Q's & Family,

To me, the scariest (and frankly, most  telling) so-called  "news"  about 
health care insurance is the  "news" of its history.  I'm talking about the 
recent reminder (instead of  "news") that the Insurance Industry has been 
exempt from Anti-Trust laws for  the past 64 years!!

Translation:  As a group, Insurance Companies  have been *allowed*, by a 
1945 law specifying a Federal exeption for them, to  engage in deliberate 
price fixing rather than actual capitalistic competition  and supply/demand 
sales.

Insurance companies can limit their coverage  to be within the borders of a 
single state or a set of states.  In  several states, 80% or more of the 
available Health Insurance is controlled by  a single Insurance Company!

In 1945, when this Anti-Trust Exemption  began, it was intended to apply to 
Life Insurance Companies.  However,  over time those Life Insurance 
Companies began small-but-growing Health  Insurance subsidiaries that, while 
still 
owned by Federally Protected  Entities, proved to be quite profitable -- 
especially if their charges weren't  regulated by the Feds or by the ups and 
downs of the Market but instead by  informal "agreements" with other companies 
(so-called "Competitors") to charge  similarly higher rates.

This explains why Health Insurance costs --to  those who can afford it-- 
have risen at 4-times the rates of incomes,  inflation and any other goods.

For Example (quoting Greg):
>  Insurance companies have asked courts for the right to dump people
> who  have had catastrophic injures, AIDS, etc. because it costs them
> too  much money, even though they have paid premiums for years.
> Clearly  this system is broken.

A Health Insurance Company in New York (The  Guardian I believe) recently 
discovered it was paying a lot --close to $1  Million this year-- for an 
individual with Muscular Dystrophy.  While I  don't know this person's 
particular circumstances (like were hospitalizations  and sudden deterioration 
involved?), I do know the Insurance Company didn't  want to pay his (her?) 
bills 
EVEN THOUGH premiums had always been paid in full  and on time.

SO, since they couldn't refuse this person a policy based  on his/her 
disability and the costs related  --because terminating one  person's policy 
like 
that would be discriminatory-- the Company's new policy  beginning December 
1 will reportedly no longer cover anyone in the state with  this level of 
disability.

And worse, based on the Anti-Trust laws, the  New York courts had to uphold 
the Insurance Company's decision!!

Now  the only hope for this person and everyone else affected by the 
Company's  greedy decision is that the Federal Health and Human Services 
Department will  step in to find some way to intervene.  The problem, though, 
is that 
HHS  will likely have to take matters to Federal Court and through each 
level up to  the Supreme Court and hope that at least a part of the Anti-Trust 
Exemption  can be narrowed.  Then, dependeding on Court decisions, it won't 
be (or  become) so much of a Free-For-All precedent for Other Insurers to 
follow ...  basically allowing Health Insurers to drop, or refuse to cover, 
people who can  pay premiums but have MD --and likely other disabilities to 
follow (like us  Quads).

Greg is right.  The system is broken.  How to fix  it...?  Maybe removing 
the Exemption?  Maybe threatening to do  so?  Maybe removing just a portion 
of it?  Maybe it's the Public  Option or maybe a "trigger" that Insurers can 
choose to pull or not that would  create that Option?  Maybe it's Co-Ops?

Maybe it's a combination  of all of the above.  But something... almost 
ANYTHING... must be done to  improve our health care system so it isn't just a 
"Care for the Healthy  System."


Best wishes to All!
And if you  reached this point, Thank You for reading my  rant!!!

Sincerely,
--Tod

P.S.  While I know Keith  Olberman of MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith 
Olberman" is a "raging/flaming  liberal," ...  I'm wondering... Did anybody see 
his 
1-Hr Special Comment  on Health Care in America?  It ran last Wed., Oct. 7, 
and was repeated  yesterday, Fri., Oct. 16.  While not perfect, he did have 
some pretty  solid points about the Industry and where the US stands 
compared to overall  world health (among a few other points).

I was just curious who saw it  and what they thought.

As a result of this show, over $1 Million was  raised (so far) to help 
provide free Public Health Clinic for a day in the  Capital Cities of the 6 
Democratic Senators in the Finance Committee who were  outspoken against a 
"Public Option."



---- Greg  <[email protected]> wrote: 
> I think profits are great I have a bit  in the Market, but people's health
> and lives should not be decided by  profit and loss. Those who don't
> want the government to make decisions  seem to feel fine with an 
> insurance company making the decisions on  their health based on 
> profits. People who work at insurance companies  get bonuses if the 
> decline services. They often decline services that  are covered knowing 
> a percentage of the people never ask for appeals.  Insurance 
> companies have asked courts for the right to dump  people
> who have had catastrophic injures, AIDS, etc. because it costs  them 
> too much money, even though they have paid premiums for years.  
> Clearly this system is broken. Even if some think it's a bad idea, I  
don't 
> understand why some are so viscous and even violent about it.  Lets 
> see, I feel like going out and causing trouble and fighting to  support a 
> company that will not take me if I have an injury, try to  dump me if I 
get a 
> bad one, making record profits by deny services  even if covered. Ya, I 
> want to fight for those guys. I'm very  disappointed with Obama so far. 
> He needs to stand up instead of  cowering to the Rep. Having just a 
> National Medicare has to be better  than this. Just because Canada's 
> system might have its faults,  doesn't mean we need to use that exact 
> system. Have National Medicare  for those who want it and those who 
> want to can buy their own  coverage. Although, maybe we shouldn't talk
> about this publicly.  Someone from one of those Death Panels might 
> see it.
> They  might want to add quads to the Death List with old people.
>  
>  
> Greg
>  



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