“Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack.” I almost agree, but my dog is legit protection trained & ADA certified. While the ADA did not “certify” her protection training, it did not keep her from being certified. She is kept on leash & if needed will stand & “watch” will not let an assailant approach. I can tell her “a word” and she will attack but I can also use another command and recall her.
Eric W Rudd [email protected] From: Bob Vogel Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:22 PM To: John S. Cc: RONALD L PRACHT ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection John, Penalties for slapping a vest and passing your dog off as a fake service dog, vary from state to state, in California it is a Misdemeanor carries a $2500 fine and up to a year in jail, in Florida it is a Felony. Under ADA Guidelines a service dog is never allowed to attack. By slapping a service dog vest on an aggressive dog that "scares the hell out of people" and "will chase folks" you are setting yourself for up for the possibility of a huge fine, jail time and a lawsuit. Bob On Aug 15, 2012, at 1:08 PM, John S. wrote: The past few years I've been lucky enough to have a dog. Shes a lab/pit bull mix and she scares hell out of people. If I don't say hush girl, she will chase folks. On walks she is not offensive unless people start yelling and her bark always calms things down. She drew blood once from a guy that that kept coming at me after she had warned him and I didn't call her back. Its hard to explain how much safer I feel with her around. Even my aide likes walking to the store with her and her fake sevice dog coat on. The bet money I've spent in a long time BW, john From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I drive a lift van, so the idea is to get in and close the doors....then im in my safe zone. Behind the passenger captains chair I have a large knife thats been adapted for my use to defend myself or cut things if im in a jam. I can shoot a low caliber pistol , but not in a hurry, so thats out of the question for me to use it for defense. In my house I have a rifle hidden, but at the ready......if I hear someone breaking the door down i will shoot them. Ive tried mace as well, kind of hard to use against an atacker but for dogs could work. If you live in a ghetto its not if you will be a victim its when. If people are able to get into your car basically you are at their mercy. Carry minimal amounts of cash and use credit or debit cards, dont ever count cash in view. If an attacker has a weapon and tells you to hand over your wallet or vehicle....give it to him. A couple weeks ago here in St. Louis a paraplegic man was carjacked and thrown on the ground, he begged for his chair and they threw the frame out without the wheels. At least he had his life. Another thing to add is dont display to many things on your vehicle that make it obvious you are handicapped, these thugs are looking for easy targets and sadly the elderly or handicapped are prime to be victimized. We all have handicapped plates but they still arent sure how able you are. Be aware of your surroundings all the time, dont trust people when they come up to you out of nowhere. Ron c7 From: Mandy <[email protected]> To: Danny Hearn <[email protected]> Cc: Todd Daugherty <[email protected]>; quad list <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, August 15, 2012 1:00:51 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] protection I know where you're coming from but I refuse to accept that...if you have the ability to move your arms you can learn to block or use a well-placed elbow (I'm at the perfect height to drive my elbow into someone's throat if they're close to me). Go for the throat, kidneys, soft bits. Plus, my chair with me in it is a little over half a ton. Run those f****** over. I would rather have my teeth pulled one by one than let some worthless, lazy ass junky steal from me or make me feel scared/victimized. Mandy, c5-7 On Aug 14, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Danny Hearn <[email protected]> wrote: I don't think there is much a quad can do besides, Try to travel with someone when possible---Always be aware of surroundings, daytime is usually safer than nighttme hours. Try to check out parking lots and not go to your van while anyone is loitering near it when you leave. Other than the common sense things, there may not be a lot we can do for protection. -- Dan H. From: Todd Daugherty <[email protected]> To: quad list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, August 14, 2012 1:05:12 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] protection How do you guys/girls protect yourself? I went and looked at guns and while i could grip it good i could not pull the trigger. I keep a small buck knife in my carrying bag but that's about it. I feel pretty vulnerable in some places, especially in parking lots where it takes me a few minutes to get my chair in/out and my door is open. I've had homeless, etc come up to me during this time, and once I accidentally left my passenger door unlocked and one of them just got in and sat down, asking for money/ride. Took me a few minutes to talk him out. Tazer maybe? "Don't taze me bro!!" Todd D c-6 inc '89
