Tom, you are still a valuable asset to this group when it comes to the  
subject of accessibility and vans.  Vans and Lifts have both changed over  the 
years.  Much do to rules and regulations.  Lifts got too big for  minivans, 
so the drop floor concept prevailed and grown to the standard.   An 
expensive standard.... but a standard.  Yes the big vans are still there  but 
not as 
popular, unless the oversize wheelchair demands their  use.   Gone are the 
good old days of wooden tractor ramps and rope  ty-downs........
Best West
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/14/2013 10:29:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
Hello, I've been disabled since 1971 and got my first van in 1973. i'm  
currently driving a 2011 toyota rampvan. all of the stories i've read are  
stories i hear everyday as i work for mobility works in the chicago area. i  
agree the equipment is becoming very expensive and alot of folks are searching  
for good used vehicle-they, too are expensive. what's the answer-none 
really.  just find a salesperson who truly understand you and your needs and if 
he/she  cares about you, your business, your limitations and you shouldbe 
okay. when i  first got into the business in 1977 and am kind of winding down 
now it  really has changed with more rules, regulations, other involvement by 
folks in  the medical field i really feel for folks who don't have any 
funding  assistance it takes alot of work to get the right van for the right 
person at  the right cost. unfortunately somtimes the client is looked at like 
an atm  machine rather than a person in need. i'll get off my soapbox now
tom c.  


 
____________________________________
 From: Todd Daugherty  <[email protected]>
To: Danny Hearn  <[email protected]>
Cc: RONALD L PRACHT  <[email protected]>; quad list  
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, March 14, 2013 7:40:53  AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd:  [SCIC] Re: File - Buying an accessable van.doc


 
 
Here's my van story  :)  


I was hurt in '89 and  got about 70k total, so we used some to modify our 
basement, and also bought a  minivan with side lift.  After a few years of 
being driven around I had a  swivel seat installed and hand controls.  I drove 
that van to college,  about a 6 hour drive and a few years after that drove 
on my own from Atlanta  to Vegas for a 6 month therapy session.  The engine 
died in Oklahoma City  and I had to stay in the Bates motel until morning 
when I towed it to a  dealership.  A few grand and days later I was back on 
the road  again.  I started having lots of electrical issues with the lift 
and  decided I wanted a car instead.  After 10+ years of taking my chair apart 
 and using a car I'm ready for a van again.  Holy cow are they expensive,  
can't even afford a used one.  


Todd D

C6



On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Danny Hearn <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) >  wrote:


 
I have not driven since my accident......but I bought my 1st van for  500 
bucks, it just needed a new gas tank put on it and a tune up, it had an  old 
side crow river lift, that thing was a huge 8 passenger dodge extended  
length van, it got us by a few years..my wife made me nervous trying to  
navigate turns with that monster -lol . After that we got a 1995  chevy  astro 
mini 
van with a raised roof and rear lift, that we have had for 9  years, it is 
still going so far...The price of new modified vans are  unbelievable----a 
person has to win a lottery or be rich to buy one. Dan  H.*


 
____________________________________
 From: RONALD L PRACHT <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) >
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Sent: Wed, March 13, 2013 9:16:32  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Fwd: [SCIC] Re: File - Buying an accessable van.doc


I was paralyzed in 98 and started driving about 2000 after alot of  effort 
and help from a few others. My dad found a 84 Ford econoline van in a  barn 
for $1500.00 bucks and we bought it. It had a dropped floor, old  transfer 
seat and a set of rusted hand controls in the back. I got the state  to 
install a new transfer seat, new monarch hand controls and a crescent  remote 
system to operate the lift and power doors. I taught myself to drive  it and 
rolled with it for four years, then on the way to the movies the oil  light 
came on. The oil pump in the engine went out and it was to much to  fix, so 
after pulling everything usable off of it we donated it to the  blind.
 
ron


 
____________________________________
 From: "[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) "  
<[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ; 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Sent: Wed, March 13, 2013 8:27:11  PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Fwd: [SCIC] Re: File - Buying an accessable van.doc

I had a  power pan that lowered me down 5" in a 1980 Ford E 250 van but t 
also had a  raised roof because I sat so tall in my chair. That was my first 
van. That  thing weighed 2 TONS! It was a monster and ate gas lie it was 
going out of  style.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday



-----Original  Message-----
From: lwillis821 <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To:  quad-list <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent:  Mon, Mar 11, 2013 6:57 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fwd: [SCIC] Re: File - Buying  an accessable van.doc

I have a power pan instead of lowered floor. It  takes me down about 5 in. 
It is in my 1979 E -150 that I bought new back in  '79. I don't remember 
them doing lowered floors back in those  days.

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From: "dbqjohn" &lt;[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) &gt;
Date:  March 11, 2013, 4:13:23 PM EDT
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Subject:  [SCIC] Re: File - Buying an accessable van.doc
Reply-To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 



I'm  just curious if anybody in the group drives a full size van from their 
 wheelchair and does NOT have a lowered floor or raised top.

If anyone  does, I would like to know the make and model.

I recall somebody  talking about it a few years back.

Thank you!
John C5-6 quad since  1973

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