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> On Oct 1, 2014, at 14:46, HOSNI AL-KHATIB <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> you don't know anything about ISLAM and Muslims,but I will give some 
> informations
> 
> When muslims do good things : It's humanity,But When muslims do bad things : 
> its islam. (so stop double standard hypocrisy)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm a Muslim, Islam is perfect but I am not. If muslims makes some mistakes, 
> blame it on them, not on our religion
> 
>  to see some of your double standard see this  
> http://hkbraveheart.blogspot.com/2011/07/muslims-in-world-double-standard.html
> 
> about 9/11 if you still believe the lies that your government told you,just 
> go to youtube and see thousands of videos about the truth ,and what hillary 
> clinton said about al-Qaeda  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw
> 
> and that's the answer of some questions you may have in your mind,
> 
> If you need more information,Just ask
> 
>  Does Islam Permit Killing Civilians?
> 
> Even in times of war, the Muslim must respect his adversaries� humanity. 
> Brutal and barbaric atrocities are prohibited in Islam. Islam condemns 
> barbaric killing of any human being. Therefore, Islam does not permit the 
> mutilation of the bodies of the dead enemy soldiers.
> 
> Also, Islam prohibits the targeting and killing of all civilians, especially 
> women, children, the elderly, and religious clergy. Enemies, even at time of 
> war, must be treated justly. Prisoners of war have basic human rights, as 
> stated in the Shariah (Islamic Law), and must be provided and cared for and 
> not humiliated in any way.
> 
> The following verses touch on some of these issues:
> 
> "O Prophet! say to those who are captives in your hands: If Allah findeth any 
> good in your hearts, He will give you something better than what has been 
> taken from you, and He will forgive you: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most 
> Merciful." (Surah 8, Verse 70).
> 
> And they feed, for the love of Allah, the indigent, the orphan, and the 
> captive, (Saying), We feed you for the sake of Allah alone: no reward do we 
> desire from you, nor thanks." (Surah 76, Verses 8-9).
> 
>  In addition, the following were the instructions of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) 
> to Muslims who are forced to fight a war:
> 
> "Do not kill women or children or non-combatants and do not kill old people 
> or religious people,'' and he mentioned priests, nuns and rabbis. And he 
> said, "Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees and do not poison the wells of 
> your enemies." There are many more sayings and teachings of Prophet Mohammad 
> that instruct Muslims on these issues.
> 
> In addition to all this, Islam prohibits oppression, revenge or injustice to 
> the people of the enemy in case of victory against them. Nor must there be 
> control over the sources of the wealth of the nation or people, or even 
> establishment of colonial regimes. Justice and freedom must be established. 
> Tolerance towards cultures and peoples is to be respected at all times.
> Islamic Principle: There is no Compulsion in Religion
> The verse from the Qur'an which states this principle of no compulsion in 
> religion is the following:
> "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: 
> whoever rejects Evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy 
> hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things." 
> (Surah 2, Verse 256). The holy Qur'an reminds us that there must not be 
> compulsion in religion. It states that the truth stands out clear from error, 
> and that those who reject error and believe in God are the saved ones.
> This means that Muslims are not allowed to force people to convert to Islam. 
> Muslims should only seek to make the truth clear to others, and talk to them 
> about Islam, then let them decide for themselves. In fact, most people who 
> study Islam without having made a decision to hate it first come to love its 
> message and convert to Islam after learning about it's values and principles.
> Another verse that also states this principle is the following:
> "If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he 
> may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. 
> That is because they are men without knowledge." (Surah 9, Verse 6). This 
> wonderful verse instructs Muslims to grant asylum to non-believers, and make 
> them safe, and allow them to hear the word of Allah. Then they are to be 
> escorted to whatever place they will be safe and secure in. This is because 
> these non-believers simply have no knowledge of Islam, and no knowledge of 
> the word of Allah.
> What a wonderful religion Islam is! How can this be compared with the way 
> that Christians spread their religion? They spread it by genocide, mass 
> murder, kidnapping of children and wiping out of entire nations and 
> civilizations! Ask the natives of the Americas, Australia and Africa about it!
> " ... and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the 
> Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye 
> one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin 
> and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment." (Surah 5, Verse 
> 2).
> "Nor can Goodness and Evil be equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better: then 
> will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were thy friend and 
> intimate!" (Surah 41, Verse 34).
> "O ye who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even 
> as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be 
> (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts 
> (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to 
> do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do." (Surah 4, 
> Verse 135).
> "God advocates justice, charity, and regarding the relatives. And He forbids 
> evil, vice, and transgression. He enlightens you, that you may take heed." 
> (Surah 16, Verse 90).
> "And if ye do punish them, punish them no worse than they punished you: but 
> if ye show patience, that is indeed the best (course) for those who are 
> patient." (Surah 16, Verse 126).
>  The first three verses above instruct Muslims to fight those who fight them, 
> and not to commit aggression first, as God does not like transgressors. They 
> also instruct Muslims to stop fighting those who wish to cease fighting them, 
> and to accept peace with the enemy who becomes inclined towards peace.
> The fourth verse mentioned above instructs Muslims that if someone 
> transgresses against them, they should respond to them likewise, and it 
> reminds Muslims to fear God and to restrain themselves to this limit.
> The fifth verse reminds Muslims not to let hatred of some people for past 
> reasons to lead them to transgress against those people or be hostile towards 
> them. It also instructs us to help each other in good and righteous actions, 
> and not to cooperate in aggression and sin, and it reminds them finally of 
> the strict punishment of God to encourage them to abide by these principles.
> The sixth verse reminds us that goodness and evil are never equal, and that 
> we should repel evil with good actions. This means that when someone is 
> unjust to us or commits evil against us, we are encouraged to respond with 
> kind and good actions, so that the hatred between us and that person will 
> evaporate and will become an intimate friendship!
> The seventh verse mentioned reminds us to stand up for justice, even if it is 
> against ourselves or our family, and even if it is against those who are rich 
> or powerful, because justice applies to everyone. It also reminds us that God 
> knows everything we do, and so if we act unjustly even in our hearts, God 
> knows what we did and we will be accountable for that.
> The eighth verse informs us that God enjoins us to follow justice, and that 
> God forbids us from committing evil, vice and transgression.
> The ninth and final verse reminds Muslims that if they are punished, that 
> they may only respond with the same punishment and not to go over this limit. 
> However, they are reminded that forgiveness and patience is the best course 
> of action.
> These are the wonderful ideals of Islam:
> To pursue peace with everyone including past enemies, except when they fight 
> the Muslims and refuse peace, then Muslims are allowed to fight in 
> self-defense.
> To ensure that we always apply justice and never transgress against others 
> even if they are our enemies.
> To repel evil actions with good actions, in order to replace hatred with an 
> intimate friendship.
> To respond to punishment with the same punishment, but that forgiveness and 
> patience is even better than retaliation.
> 

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