A defective battery can hold 12 volts and then some.  However, the  same 
defective battery will fail a coil load test.  And that is how we test  a 
battery's integrity. Batteries that have vents can release dangerous gases as  
the battery is charged and if the battery should become overcharged, because 
it  is not holding amperage the liquid acid could vent and spill out of the 
battery  onto metal of a carpeted floor.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 11/2/2016 7:58:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
alcibiat...@yahoo.com writes:

The  safety issue with the gell batteries is with flying . If acid 
batteries  come in contact with salt water they give off poisonous gas. Since 
AGM,  
advanced glass  mat,, batteries  don't vent, I don't see how they'd  be a 
problem. The law was written before  AGM batteries became available.   
I really think that you have described a dead cell. It's not common  but it 
does happen . I think when you get them tested one battery will  read 8 
volts or something under 12. I do wish you the best of luck with  it.


John  s.


-------- Original message --------
From:  Nichole Rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> 
Date: 11/02/2016 7:13 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: 'Danny Hearn' <ddh...@sbcglobal.net>,  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Barreries 


Danny,  I have Medicare and they cover MK Gel Batteries but they are 
expensive   
Nicki 
 
 
From: Danny Hearn  [mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 7:57  PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; g...@eskimo.com;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Barreries

 
 
 
 
 
I  think they are some type of sealed acid......but not gel as they come 
with,  the medical equipment supplier said they will not replace gel batteries 
after  the original ones the chairs come with go bad....i think they said 
it was to  costly for insurance to cover...I hate this because the gel hold 
up great and  are safe. Dan H**
 




 
 
 
 
On  Tuesday, November 1, 2016 7:51 PM, "wheelch...@aol.com"  
<wheelch...@aol.com> wrote:
 
 
 
Lead. Acid ARE  DANDEROUS.  They will void any manufacture warrant and can 
be dangerous  to your health and well being. 
 

 
Best  Wiishes

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


-----Original  Message-----
From: Danny Hearn <ddh...@sbcglobal.net>
To: greg  <g...@eskimo.com>; quad-list <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue,  Nov 1, 2016 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Barreries


 
 
 
 
Greg...my  batteries ran dead and they were replaced with the lead acid 
type and had to  buy another type charger because the old charger was made more 
for the gel  type batteries, The Gel batteries are much better and last 
longer but when  they replace them they go with the regular acid type because 
of cost I think.  My chair is real old also 7 years plus and trying to get a 
new one  because my back-up chair is shot and this one is beginning to 
develop problems  also. Dan H**
 

 
 
 
 
On  Tuesday, November 1, 2016 11:36 AM, greg <_greg@eskimo.com_ 
(mailto:g...@eskimo.com) >  wrote:
 
 
 
 
I got  new batteries in Aug, but already after a few miles, my chair feels 
sluggish.  After about 4 miles, my chair has 2 out of 5 bars left of power. 
Then really  gets bad even on a small ramp. Chair stops, charge bar meter 
flashes and I  have to turn it off and on. The last 3 weeks or so, after a few 
miles, the  charge meter on the joystick flahes the Pi sign, TT one wavy 
cross on  top.
 
The  chair repair shop, nor Invacare, can figure out the flashing Pi sign. 
Neither  have ever seen it before.
 

My  chair is old and I'm just starting the new chair prosses. But is there  
anything that an old chair can do to cause batteries to go out fast. Or 
draw  to much power?
 

 
Just  called to try and get the battering replaced.
 

 
Greg




















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