*Stressing that this is my opinion:* I live in Arkansas and there was a
full lockdown for a couple months. Following federal recommendations. I'd
say early June everyone seemed to realize that if you're under 70 and don't
interact w/ the over 70 year old population, then the symptoms and
infection were no worse than a 3-4 day cold/flu. Everything opened up and
has been since (restaurants excluded). So, I personally, do not feel at any
more risk from this than getting the flu from someone (For my own reasons
I've not taken a flu shot in over 20 years). I really lean on healthy
living, eating good foods, and vitamins. (exercise when I can)

Long path to my point: Your odds vary based on your lifestyle. I think
50/50 odds going to work would be true if you purposely seek out sick
people. Everyone is a 'raw nerve' right now regarding this. You are
probably safer than ever going to work.

Aaron Mann


On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:33 PM Joe Olson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Aaron,
> Here is some made up math.
> Chance of getting it if I go to work
> 1/2
> Chance of getting it and having symptoms
> 1/4
> Chance they present as respiratory
> 1/8
> Chance of having severe symptoms
> 1/16
> Death
> 1/50- 1/100
> Without work probably can half all of those numbers
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Aaron Mann <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> C4/5 @ 15, 31 yrs post, Network Engineer past 20yrs
>
> I've been very fortunate to have been working from home since this whole
> thing started. They also have all sorts of guidelines in effect. The big
> rub is that the required guidelines present barriers to the workplace
> preventing me from being able to physically be present. I cannot put
> on/remove a face mask or thoroughly clean my hands and desk reliably.
>
> Anyway, on to your situation:
>
> 1. They are following distancing guidelines
>>>
>>
> Ask any Dr 'distancing' only helps if you're the one that's sick. If so,
> you shouldn't be out anyways. (true regardless of illness; cold, flu, etc)
>
> 2. My states case numbers are steady and relatively low / low positive rate
>>>
>>
> Do your own research on this, but too many sources are cropping up that
> show the states are not calculating and/or reporting the stats properly
> (check out <start at 13:40> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFnUGSr3fw0 Good
> mask wearking facts too)
>
> 3. I take public transportation there
>>>
>>
> Probably at the same risk as before COVID. Public transportation is a
> natural petri dish.
>
> 4. My work does not require much face to face work with the public- desk
>>> job.
>>>
>>
> Can you justify working from home?
>
> 5. All guidance on SCI shows that we are at higher risk
>>>
>>
> SCI are at higher risk from any 'breathing affecting' illness. Bad colds,
> Flu (Corona virus btw), COVID, etc. The risk of becoming infected is NOT
> greater, just the effects IF infected.
>
> 6. Very little actual outcome based results on COVID and SCI. Only a
>>> single case study
>>>
>>
> *My opinion:* I think it is the immune compromised who are experiencing
> the severe effects of COVID. I believe that if you are generally healthy
> with a good immune system, then getting COVID is similar to getting a bad
> cold or flu. Both of which I've had numerous times. I do take several
> immune boosting vitamins as a preventative measure and am aware of those
> around me exhibiting signs of illness.
>
> 7. I live in a place where community transmission has been active for a
>>> while and may have had it asymptomatically already.
>>>
>>
> Me too!
>
> 8. I'm typically pretty healthy (besides UTI, occasional skin breakdown)
>>>
>>
> Me too!
>
> 9. One of my caregivers has emphysema
>>>
>>
> This one's tough because your circle is their circle and vice versa. I
> assume they go to the store, get stuff for home, maybe a restaurant? If so,
> that's no different from you going to/from work. Both of you being
> conscientious of each other in your interactions. My attendant and family
> do that for me too.
>
> 10. I'm not impacted economically either way
>>>
>>
> I like to see fellow SCI working when and if they can. Get back on the
> horse as soon as you are set for care.
>
> 11. If I do come down with it mildly symptomatic, it may be difficult to
>>> get my caregivers to show up. I would likely need to be hospitalized due to
>>> lack of care- even with mild symptoms.
>>>
>>
> Have the conversation w/ your caregiver(s). Make a plan, because the
> hospital is the last place you want to be. I think you in a mask and them
> with gloves, mask, and washing/purelling religiously would be safe enough.
> (consult your Dr on this)
>
> 12. I'm getting bored staying home
>>>
>>
> I too have binged everything Prime, Netflix, Hulu, and Youtube have to
> offer. Want to zoom or Skype sometimes just hit me up!
>
> 13. Due to lack of human connection while isolating, I could see myself
>>> taking part in - or may have already taken part in activities that could be
>>> more risky than work.
>>>
>>
> Like "I bet I can use those stairs going down if I just go fast enough" or
> "Can I eat just one Lays chip". No, seriously the odds are you have and
> will do things that everybody is ram-rodding into our heads as dangerous.
> We face danger every day (if we're living life). I still go places and
> enjoy the outdoors. My family goes to the lake every weekend. (mask-free)
>
> 13. I think staying out too long may affect my reputation as a reliable
>>> useful employee.
>>>
>>
> Stay in constant contact with your manager. Make certain they are being
> very candid with you. Express your concerns.
>
>>

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