On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 04:19:30PM -0500, the pickle wrote:
> At 14:29 -0500 on 29/12/02, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:
> 
> >This is true, but I did a comparison of 7.1 and 7.5.5, both fresh installs
> >with identical settings, the same networking, and as close as possible
> >on extensions and control panels.
> >
> >7.5.5 was faster on my 50MHz '030 Mac IIci with 128MB of RAM.  It may
> >not be this way on all machines or all configurations.
> 
> Faster as measured how?

It's faster all around.  There is little I notice being slower, and
Finder and the filesystem are definitely faster.  It crashes less too.

No change in graphics speed, but I have a Radius 24XP which isn't a
speed demon anyway.  Menu speed is faster in 7.1, but only if I am
running the extended menu functions available in 7.5.5.

I also notice that 7.5.5 seems to handle multiple tasks a bit smoother
than 7.1.  

I was pretty well set on using 7.1 plus upgrades for my systems, but
decided to try 7.5.5 out of curiosity, and because some software appeared
to want it.

I was expecting it to be noticeably slower.  Instead, I noticed no
difference at first, outside of startup time, most of which was
for extensions and control panels not present in 7.1.

Then after using it a couple of days I found Finder, the filesystem,
and multitasking to be faster than 7.1.  I also had fewer crashes.

While I had planned on restoring my 7.1 folder, I ended up never going
back.  I would like to, but install and setup takes awhile on these
machines, and I hate to do it.

> >> Did you time startup times?  It's *at least* a minute longer in 7.5.x, and
> >
> >On what system?  This statement is meaningless without context.
> 
> Any 040 that I've tried, including all desktop 040s except the Q900, which is
> basically a Q700 in a larger case.

How long does one of your machines take to boot, say the Q900 for example?

My fastest boot with 7.1 was about 45 seconds, and that includes some
negotiation with my UNIX servers during startup.  My 7.5.5 setup takes
under 2 minutes, and normally is just over a minute, depending on the
mix of extensions.  

A one minute increase in bootup time would be a major change.

The only thing I have noticed so far is that 7.5.5 seems to take longer to
negotiate with my UNIX servers.  I can't really qualify that yet though,
because I didn't do much timing with 7.1, and I've increased the Apple
services on the UNIX server.

I would have to go back to 7.1 to properly compare that portion of the
startup time.

By far the slowest part of a cold bootup is the RAM check, which takes
at least 2 minutes.  Fortunately, it doesn't do it on subsequent boots
unless you power off.

> >If you really find 7.1 much faster than 7.5.5, then there has to be
> >some serious differences in your hardware and ours.
> 
> That 50 MHz PowerCache is helping you a lot more than you might think.

Oh, I know exactly how much it helps, since I also have a vanilla 25MHz
IIci, and the accelerated machine was vanilla for about a week before
my Daystar arrived.

Even with the accelerator helping, that doesn't change my impression of
the speed of 7.1 versus 7.5.5.  I was pretty well convinced of 7.1's
superior speed too, but not any more.  





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