I re-fitted the rear screen on our saloon yesterday. Used one of the Masterbond kits from Wayside Adhesives.
Andy was right about the lack of bond to the glass. The old adhesive was fine, but it was attached to the paint, which had detached from the glass. The screen just lifted out, which would have been interesting if it had happened at speed! I masked the screen as described in the build manual, then etched it with my sandblaster gun (cheap Clarke job from Machine Mart). Kit comes with glass primer, then black primer, both of which go off in a couple of minutes. Was careful to mask off the heated screen elements, but not sure if they will have survived the masking tape. Kit was fine. Easy to use, and ample to do the one screen. My advice is to cover absolutely everything apart from the screen aperture, though. I didn't and spent ages cleaning up! Gave up on the trim, and just used a fillet of the adhesive. Side windows don't have trims in any case. Dave. On 7 Sep, 20:58, Derek Clews <derek_cl...@lineone.net> wrote: > Hi again, > > I have just ordered some of the base level Screenfix one pack and > wipes as it's cheaper and the only practical difference is the cure > time, so I will give it a try. The supplier seemed to think that the > window did not have to be etched to stick properly. Who knows? I'll > see what the instructions say when it comes. > > Also, think I have a rubber surround supplier. Could even use a > universal profile rubber it seems. I found a reference to the rear > screen being Cavalier and front Sierra. Interestingly, the Project > Coupe has a different front screen rubber profile than that quoted for > a Sierra on the website I found. Luckily I do not need a new front > rubber, I can stick down the old one and the screen seems sound. I > will probably get away with the rear screen and one rear side screen. > They are both coming unstuck with a gentle push - so I may not need > the tool I have recently bought to cut screens out! > > Derek > > On 5 Sep 2010, at 22:44, Derek Clews wrote: > > > > > Hi Both, > > > Eddie said something similar about the glass prep. I have a spot > > blaster and will give that a try, should etch the screen nicely. But > > if you look at the rear screen you have to work around the rear > > screen heater or you will loose it! > > > I am still unsure about the adhesive, but price wise it seems the 1 > > pack is worth a go just google the Screenfix + and see the spec. > > > I also found the rubber surround can be a problem and I will trim > > it, but I need a new one. Any suggestions on preferred supplier? > > > Cheers > > > Derek > > > On 5 Sep 2010, at 00:03, Dave the Subbie wrote: > > >> Hi Andy, > >> I've just bought a saloon for my son, and the rear window has almost > >> come away. What adhesive and primer are you using, as I'm going to > >> have to get some in the next week or two? > >> I note that the build manual refers to "Autoseal 130". Is this still > >> the preferred adhesive, or are there better alternatives? > >> Thanks, > >> Dave. > > >> P.S. Do you have a build Manual for the Series 1 you are restoring? I > >> inherited one when I bought my Series 1 (Q013) and, if necessary, > >> you'd be welcome to copy it. > > >> On 31 Aug, 14:49, "Andy Heaton" <andy.hea...@virgin.net> wrote: > >>> Hi Derek > > >>> The issue with the windows on the saloons is as most of us realise > >>> these > >>> windows are designed for rubber and not bonding and because the > >>> glass is not > >>> etched the primer just comes away from the srceens. > >>> You can overcome this by preparing the glass using an aluminium > >>> pan scourer > >>> then you can apply the primer and then bond in. or get your local > >>> glass > >>> company to do it for you. > >>> We are slowly working through our fleet of saloons down here and > >>> glad to say > >>> our local Autoglass technician has got it off to a fine art, none > >>> have had > >>> problems five years on....... > > >>> Andy h. > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Eddie" <erus...@blueyonder.co.uk> > >>> To: "Quantum Owners Group" <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > >>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:29 PM > >>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Fwd: Sicking screens in > > >>> Hi Derek > > >>> contact me on 01454 880 208 or on 07957 601 677 > >>> I can advise on this > > >>> Eddie > > >>> On 29 Aug, 20:45, Derek Clews <derek_cl...@lineone.net> wrote: > >>>> Begin forwarded message: > > >>>>> From: Derek Clews <derek.cl...@dsl.pipex.com> > >>>>> Date: 29 August 2010 20:38:49 BST > >>>>> To: Quantum Owners Group <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > >>>>> Subject: Sicking screens in > > >>>>> Dear All, > > >>>>> I am looking at bonding the screens on the Bronze Project Coupe. I > >>>>> last did my son's using a two part system. It worked fine. Part of > >>>>> the prep covers the inside of the screen with a nice finished > >>>>> black > >>>>> edge that the adhesive sits behind. The original screens are not > >>>>> made with a black matt edge like some modern ones, they are just > >>>>> plain glass all over. > > >>>>> Searching the net now there are newer one part systems for screen > >>>>> bonding. It seems a lot cheaper. > > >>>>> 1. Has anyone tried it? e.g. Kent Screenfix+ > >>>>> 2. How did you finish the edge neatly to make it look > >>>>> professional? > >>>>> 3. 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