I guess it may loose a bit in the bushes, mine were all new and smeared with 
moly grease.

Jim



From: Darren Siepka 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 9:27 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

Whilst comparing setups for my swap I wondered how much effort we loose in the 
plastic bushes too, especially at the servo end with the shortest arm. The mg 
crossbar has needle roller bearings supporting both ends of the crossbar! This 
will surely help frictional losses.i wonder if similar could be done for the 
original fiesta setup?  

Darren

On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 09:13 Jim Hearne, <[email protected]> wrote:

  I had the same problem when i put Willwood 4 pot calipers on my 2+2, that 
  has the early brake setup.

  There are 2 different brake pedals with the hole for the bar that goes 
  through the bulkhead in different places, one gives you more pressure on the 
  master cylinder but at the expense of more pedal travel.
  I may have a picture somewhere.
  I drilled another hole in the already better option pedal , even higher up, 
  this helped with the pressure but gave more pedal travel.

  It certainly stops now, i did a couple of track days in it.
  I also have a feeling that the brake pads either glazed or weren't the best 
  material choice, i bought another set of a more road spec but never got 
  around to fitting them to see if they made a difference.

  I thought i may have been loosing travel with the servo brackets flexing so 
  i plated in the open sides and strengthened to ends, but this made no 
  difference.
  You can also adjust the pushrod in the servo to remove any play before the 
  pushrod contacts the end of the master cylinder.
  But, be careful with this, i got it too close and it wasn't letting the 
  master cylinder fully retract.
  This had the effect that as the fluid got hot it gradually applied the 
  brakes, not so good.

  What bore is your master cylinder ?, it should be stamped on the side.

  I know anything with a bias bar won't pass an IVA test unless it's welded up 
  but not sure if it's an MOT failure.
  Also, without a servo you will need some muscles.

  Jim




  -----Original Message----- 
  From: 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group
  Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 5:39 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

  After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston 
  calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I 
  can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged 
  all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything. 
  I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at 
  options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo 
  these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more 
  performance focused set up.
  Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the 
  standard servo and master cylinder.

  
https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html

  Bob

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