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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf 
of Derek Clews <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 2:43:39 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum <[email protected]>
Cc: Derek Clews <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

Interesting.  So the Logbook needs to read historic?  I wondered if that had 
changed as we don’t do tax discs anymore and the whole taxing process is more 
automated online.

Showing my ignorance here but what donor is the 1978 car?  That would be Fiesta 
Mk1?

They certainly have changed the reg system over the years, then.

ATB

Derek


On 24 Jan 2020, at 13:06, Darren Siepka 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

To change the log book you need to apply for tax in the post office.
Complete section 7 tax class, change to historic.
They will give you your free tax disc and send off the logbook to be changed.

All three of my quantum only have a single date of registration.all are 
correctly registered as the appropriate quantum type.
On one there is a note on front page in sect3 special notes: states 1.kit built 
converted- assembled from parts all of which may not be new.

There are no other notes or comments.
My saloon is dated 85 , one 2-2 86 and one is 78.
I don't know about the other two but the 78 2-2 I built and kept its doner reg 
in full
They all only have simple rivet on plates that old q used to issue.

On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 12:51 Derek Clews, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Cheers Jim,

Good point.  I have forgotten it was as late as 1998 SVA came in.  Both kits I 
built myself were early 2000’s and SVA’ed.  My Coupe (which I did not build) 
has a single 1986 age.  On the tax free issue, you get road tax online. And you 
have to apply for it as usual but pay nothing.  So I sort of assume that if the 
reg date is 40 year or more ago you pay nothing with no human intervention?

Interestingly my chassis number is a long format one but I was allowed to rivet 
a pre-stamped plate on the 2+2 frame and another on the fibreglass body.  That 
was Aberdeen in 2001.  My Blackjack Avion number came moulded into the 
fibreglass body tub.  That was 2004.

Derek


On 24 Jan 2020, at 12:41, Jim Hearne 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA

Except for the Xtreme’s

Jim


From: Jim Hearne
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

I would say most Quantum’s are pre-SVA
My 2+2 is probably the closed pre-SVA, i took the paperwork down to the local 
VRO office the evening of the very last day before the SVA came into force in 
1998
My 2+2 is a B reg, not the donor reg but another allocated one. It has 2 dates 
on the registration, 1985 (donor age) and 1998 (registration date).

The trouble was all the different VRO offices had different interpretations of 
the rules.
Mine let me have the chassis number as Q2-099 but i know many other VRO said it 
had to be a minimum length.
I was also allowed to have my chassis plate screwed on, other VRO insisted the 
chassis number was stamped into the spaceframe.

A lot of older kit cars were still registered as the donor car, for quite a 
while you could get it corrected by the DVLA without a problem but nowadays 
it’s a lot of hassle.

Jim



From: Derek Clews
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 12:25 PM
To: Quantum Owners Forum
Cc: Derek Clews
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Tax exempt?

Hi Daren,

Thanks for the info.  That would seems to indicate it is the reg doc date.

My Q 2+2 which I built was SVA’ed and given a first registered 2001 as a 
Quantum but age related plate due to donor parts qualifying as 1989.  So which 
age is zero tax reference?

Were the older Q’ss even pre SVA?  I know there was some issue about a few kit 
cars that were not registered correctly as the Kit type they became.  But my 
Coupe certainly is registered as a Quantum, but just 1986 still.  My Son’s 
Coupe is a Q plate, but registered to donor date.  So many combinations.  If 
the reference is the plate a Q can never be tax free as there is not associated 
age, but the 2+2 is only 9 years away from tax free.  If it is the reg doc date 
new ball game and Q’s can be tax exempt.

Derek

On 24 Jan 2020, at 09:06, Darren Siepka <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, yes my 2+2 has already gone over her 40.
She was a pre sva build on an s plate
There are no notes on the v5 showing when it was converted to a Quantum.
The area around q reg is very confusing , with some saying they have and some 
not.
Darren


On Fri, 24 Jan 2020, 08:38 Derek Clews, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi All,

I understand that after a rolling 40 years your car is classic tax exempt.  In 
the next few years are any of our Quantums falling into that category?  I 
realised one of my Q’s is registered as 1986.  Must be the original donor 
date……….. but that’s what is on the document.  Does anyone know what happens 
about Q plate cars do they also get the tax exempt?

Cheers

Derek

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