Hi Derek. Jim is absolutely spot on (as always ) with his advice. I tried one of the first (multi sizes) link ones a few years back – utter rubbish, I’d have done better using a centre punch ☹ The second, hand -held one is a direct copy of my (very old) Sykes-Pickavent hand-held one and they work very well. As Jim says, the flare has to be done in one action. To do a double flare the flare tool is removed after the first flaring, and turned around to do the second part to complete the double flare. I’ve used mine for pipes of at least 3 kit cars including the Quantum, including being doubled-up using it by hand under the Calvy Mitchel many years ago. A first-class piece of kit. The expensive SP one may be easier to use/slightly better? But can’t be used when the operator is on their back under the car! Oh- ALWAYS remember to put the threaded fitting on the pipe before doing the flare ………. Don’t ask me how I know 😊 Martin Scott
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: [email protected] Sent: 19 March 2021 17:24 To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare I think the Fiesta uses DIN/ISO - I have just been doing some saloon rear lines and braided hoses and used a DIN tool (Trident). If you do need to make the female concave type flares (ice cream cone shape) you will need the SAE type tool. I am pretty sure the SAE convex male flare will seal OK in a metric DIN concave seat as flare just deforms as the union is tightened (with copper or copper nickel pipes at least). John On Friday, 19 March 2021 at 16:57:50 UTC Jim Hearne wrote: Ok, after some googleing, what i thought was a double flare is actually called a bubble flare. So, the Quantums have mostly bubble flares but there are some double flares on there as well. Jim From: Jim Hearne Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare I think the Imperial and Metric brake pipe sizes are compatible, still seems to be called 3/16” I’ve certainly not bought a specific imperial or metric tool, just a brake pipe tool. Some of the joints are double flare so make sure your tool can do those. Get a decent tool, the cheap ones are very hard to get proper flares. https://www.halfords.com/tools/hand-tools/automotive-tools/halfords-brake-pipe-flaring-tool-kit-187982.html This sort always seem to be poor. I had one similar to this for a while, it was very good as long as you didn’t need to take the pipe out and put it back in again, it wouldn’t always grip if you tried that. https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/hand-held-brake-pipe-flaring-tool I’ve got one of these now, very good but pricy. https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/automotive/brake-and-clutch-tools/027250-hand-held-auto-brake-pipe-flaring-tool/p/ZT1120233X?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=dsa-generic&utm_content=automotive&targetid=dsa-900928623826&gclid=Cj0KCQjwl9GCBhDvARIsAFunhsklmb5SPdAjX_N1DdZrRwc8GGPvfEIkIuFKdOlc4H5fTOkSKJSqI7caAsz1EALw_wcB Jim From: Derek Clews Sent: Friday, March 19, 2021 4:28 PM To: Quantum Owners Club Cc: Derek Clews Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake pipe flare Hi All, Can anyone confirm the Q Coupe and 2+2 (i.e. Fiesta Mk2) Brake system? I want to get a flaring tool and think it is using a 4.75 DIN ISO 3/16" Single Bubble Flare. Is that correct? 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