Hi all,

I teach journalism students how to use Qubes at the University of
Melbourne.  One of the biggest obstacles is getting Qubes up and
running in the classroom.  Currently, we have a small class set of
laptops that students share.  It would be much better if students
could run Qubes inside Virtual Box on their own laptops (which are 90%
Mac).  So if it's not too much effort to accommodate Qubes inside
Virtual Box, I think it could have a big impact.

Just to be clear: of course there are only minimal security benefits
from using Qubes inside Virtual Box compared to using vanilla OS X.
The benefit is in reducing the cost of education.  It's a big ask to
get students to blindly buy a Qubes-capable laptop.  Moreover, secure
laptop purchases need to be conducted carefully (to avoid interdiction
attacks), and secure laptops need to be stored carefully.  It's better
for journalists to spend their money on secure laptops after they have
been properly educated.

Kind regards,
Andrew


On 27 July 2016 at 06:17, Nicklaus McClendon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Consequently, we have decided to move to hardware memory
> virtualization for the upcoming Qubes 4.0 release [4]. We believe this
> is the best _generic_ solution we can afford to implement in the near
> future (in addition to patching this very bug, of course)." -
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-secpack/blob/master/QSBs/qsb-024-2016.txt
>
> As Virtualbox and Vagrant currently run within HVMs, does this mean that
> Virtualbox (and other visualization tools) will likely work in AppVMs in
> Qubes 4?
>
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