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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:12:02AM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-11-09 23:35, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
> > Currently, nm-applet is always started, and hidden by
> > show-hide-nm-applet if NetworkManager is not enabled (well really...
> > if the qubes network-manager service is enabled). This seems like an
> > odd choice vs. not starting it at all.
> > 
> > What is the purpose of this?
> > 
> > Does nm-applet provide some functionality even without NetworkManager 
> > running?
> > 
> 
> IIUC, not starting it at all isn't easy. See this message from Marek:
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/DMqWMAi8EP0/9gldaCJZQgAJ

Yes, exactly. This is related to upstream choice:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit?id=276a702000ee9e509321891f5ffa9789acfb053c

And not starting it depending on NetworkManager running or not would
require (scripted) modification of /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
at every startup, which is fragile. For example will break if upstream
decide to rename the file (which happened in the past), substantially
change its content etc.

> > It appears that en/disabling qubes-services (such as network-manager
> > (triggering NetworkManager)) always requires rebooting... was this
> > planned to not be the case?

It isn't on the roadmap anywhere soon. But as usual - we can add it, if
someone would implement it :)

- -- 
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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