-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-01-18 14:30, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 02:12:18PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> Solutions to this problem are already implemented in Qubes, and they are >> described here: >> >> https://www.qubes-os.org/getting-started/#running-an-application-full-screen >> >> >> Are these solutions deficient? If so, in what specific way(s)? What does >> the proposed visual string comparison solution get us that the existing >> ones don't? Personally, I find it much easier just to drag a window or >> hit alt + tab than to visually compare anything. There's a lot of room >> for >> improvement, but I think that any new solutions should aim to make >> protecting >> against UI attacks easier for the user than it currently is, not harder. > > The current solutions are: > > 1. Use KDE's expose to discern real from fake windows. > 2. When not using KDE, use Alt-Tab for the same effect. > 3. Move the window so it crosses the background window UI. > > I like #1, but with XFCE becoming the default in 3.2, it's of limited > value. If there was similar functionality in XFCE, that would be very > handy to have -- e.g. "press and hold the Win key to quickly hide/roll > up all unfocused windows, and release the key to restore things exactly > as they were." That would be perfectly acceptable as well. > > I don't like #2, because with a lot of windows open, I lose focus half > the time and have to find my window again, plus it's visually cumbersome. > > I don't like #3 either, because it requires that I move my hands towards > the mouse, though it's currently the most effective. >
I suppose a lot of it comes down to personal preference, then. I'm certainly open to existence of multiple UI features that allow users to distinguish between security domains so that different users can focus on the features they prefer. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYgCafAAoJENtN07w5UDAw4FsQAJnPPpd3wCuGj2nqIuwfa9bR LrUd+pmi9BZxN7AnALvMsBAXLQDT3b10Ozs9WZcIpkhDmXoJwWWzz4toLNhnAc8I QlAiroeKdGk2joSQNe2ScQaFEJKJcDK7Uw0W5T3FXRtzm6dQDMBYbEJMHpHGx3mI y5CHDwx1nyDxy1W3nFbuIJMRkbGc/WMGFTnUGOtsbpfZMofPnutn4Oy3vd57ejD2 XghD8meSu1naaEVbivLFLulzSX1Ll43yNW0Hx7uYae3QXElOkPiGL2BtdboVC0Ay 9tmgk34n0+2O6C8/85/1mze5zNhlsjOse+CCZ5UmZlVzwO4z2CiMWC8dCZ2cuFUs BAKgEcPjce2hPT9qkR5KXe0NTVya6xR2Jhz6H+7JI0IpUQYH+bpm8AyBOnr6en+6 ctnYz1+OSQpxXycsQ6tN8K7/QQQdJn7Fr3k8FGoyDFgjIhnSW6GCM2qJ4zSrwjlM SM75Ru+uXmA2kBLH5I+AylYG4RWyb5tNPbfmSnkzpY/AqOtzUlqylNPDvyjHDpTS OzN7QhIfLQiTYmUJwESP2m9r364uOjh4IAcO1mcWo3EYTDIFG5YJV2JdAzOkgxU2 paA4/ncyKbG8itgg+LJgKFgWDogEgahWX31NG8zxXyWK3hfRslCIF0axZUJryhG0 8NO6EJ/BvOs7l601gjtQ =EH6P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/ad6885e1-79c6-31e2-d268-e53c90b8560e%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
