-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:42:30AM -0700, Yuraeitha wrote: > This is some months old news now from November 2017, and may already be in > the plans to fix, however, I'm putting this forward as I'm not aware of any > existing discussions on the matter, this is only an insurance so that we're > not caught un-prepared for Intel's frustrating lock-in move. I apologize if > it's already being discussed internally. Nonetheless, that being the case, > this post can also serve as a heads-up to others in the community to be > prepared for a new extra hardware issue angle. > > http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-were-ending-all-legacy-bios-support-by-2020/ > > Articles like these, seem to point towards that Intel is making a move to > remove LegacyBIOS completely. This by all appearances appear like it could > become a major headache for many Qubes users on new hardware in the near-term > future, considering some Intel devices are already taking this step to be > ready by 2020 already now. > > Ignoring the otherwise important issue of the locked hardware/software blobs > for a moment. Not solving this boot issue on time soon, seems like it might > cause a big problem for many, many existing and new Qubes users getting new > expensive hardware, if something isn't done to prevent or minimize it. > > Hardware compatibility is already an issue, Intel's move here just seems to > make it worse. > > What can be done to solve this? Qubes/Xen would need better UEFI support? If > answers have been found, is it something that possibly can be shared with us > to ease the coming worries a bit?
Generally Qubes OS and Xen do support UEFI, so this is not a blocker. But there are some problems with various UEFI implementations, and also with Xen inferior UEFI support. One of issue is combination of Grub(2) + non-multiboot-compatible xen.efi. For Qubes OS 4.0, we've solved it by removing grub from the picture[1]. But latest Xen version do support multiboot, so better solution is on the horizon (Qubes OS 4.1?). [1] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3505 - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhrpukzGPukRmQqkK24/THMrX1ywFAlqlSIMACgkQ24/THMrX 1yy0Twf/c2sxT6LG9k9mQw5M47CwGXsnvVRc+0JAgvnX/Ht9RLSl79ok9QQMvgps u4RcmS4akv7YI1/vXKAt5ziUk6Jv2+Zd0Y8OIP8YPGHxxc0xF4CUS1AUt4yjrEh6 amcAxW0X1PiCyiyCR9LnVktXVPV7MyDu6xUJ13jaQKFAaIddZjwJNovmW9ZqsA8H vjvNdoJTbq8gVU10x64cYU7hECJDQgAJVWRlepsWKy6Trffn8+2zSuAXHaLRr2mj UelBFGE0XspPlWHvWjLKuEeTS1ShsFvpRNPxCMfjEXFgUQFLLzGU28gV5ndVH/4Y BkZxKQBBHcbPl6vPqEiL7TuBmHylOw== =4Nf2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20180316130638.GP7364%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
