On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:19 AM unman <un...@thirdeyesecurity.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Insurgo Technologies Libres/Open
> Technologies wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 6:57:25 PM UTC-4, Insurgo Technologies
> Libres/Open Technologies wrote:
> > > Hello gals/guys!
> > >
> > > I commented on the Qubes Windows Tools (QWT on R4) issue here:
> > >
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3585#issuecomment-495819736
> > >
> > > I successfully created a Windows 7 Professional OEM (Xen) Template VM.
> > > Distributed that image to multiple X230 laptops, for which the OEM
> product key successfully registered over phone registration, even if the
> language of the licence was different.
> > >
> > > Now my question is, not being a Windows licensing nor sysprep guru:
> What would need to be done to distribute such image under total legality?
> > >
> > > My actual template is prior to activation state, with all updates
> installed.
> > > What would need to be done so on next boot, that installation becomes
> unique? So that template doesn't create conflicts when domain registered? I
> read that the Machine ID is fixed at installation. And conflicting sysprep
> information.
> > >
> > > Once legal issues are solved (the image doesn't provide any product
> key and doesn't come registered)
> > I would be more then willing to collaborate in creating a template image
> following dev guidelines to ease QubesOS accessibility for newcomers.
> > >
> > > Any help/advice welcomed.
> > > Thierry/Insurgo
> >
>
> It's some time since I dabbled in the black arts of Windows licensing,
> but the distribution of these images should not be a problem.
> I don't think that any particular post install steps will need to be
> taken, before distributing the images. I have in the past worked with
> VMware images without any problems. Generally,
> The only wrinkle in this is that the images *can* be repeatedly used
> without licensing, and Microsoft *may* take a dim view of that.
>
> That is good news.

> In order to *use* such an image a license would be required, and it is
> unlikely that an OEM license would be sufficient.
> Since Windows7 is now obsolete, I doubt that you will be able to get a
> key from Microsoft. You may be able to buy sealed licenses from other
> sources, but you would not be able to buy from other end users.
>
I was looking forward into providing such Windows Pro OEM (Xen) TemplateVM
with the to be certified QubesOS PrivacyBeast X230.
Since the Windows 7 OEM product key is provided as a sticker behind Lenovo
X230 laptops, correct me if i'm wrong, but following your information,
there would be no problem?

TemplateVM: doesn't come with a product key
X230: comes with a product key, under battery/under laptop.
User: has to activate Windows 7 TemplateVM over the phone with activation
key to obtain unique activation code to manually activate copy.

Seems legit, but I want to make sure and information found online is pretty
contradictory.

Unman: do you have any Windows7 licesing guru in your circle of contacts
that could validate the legality of this?

Thanks.
Thierry Laurion / Insurgo Open Technologies
https://insurgo.ca

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