-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all,
TL;DR: I propose dropping support (new updates) for Debian 8 (jessie) in Qubes 4.0. Since release of Debian 10 (buster), Debian 8 (jessie) is now oldoldstable. It was released initially in 2015 and package versions are mostly frozen since then. This means whatever update we release, it needs to be compatible with both new APIs (Debian 10+, Fedora 30+) and 4+ years old ones. This is getting more and more challenging. For example jessie has Python 3.4 which is no longer supported upstream and less and less things are compatible with it. There are also compromises we've made already - for example our U2F integration requires python 3.5, so it isn't available on jessie. Supporting 3 parallel Debian versions also takes some time. According to updates server logs, there are about 1000 unique IPs checking for updates for jessie. That's about 5% our users. Obviously I have no idea how many of them are really depending on some jessie feature, and how many simply didn't switched to newer template. But I guess majority of them are in the second category. Debian jessie is also out of upstream regular security support and LTS support will end on June 2020. I propose to drop support for Debian 8 in R4.0 with the end of this month. Existing VMs based on jessie will still work, but won't receive new updates. Users are encouraged to migrate to newer Debian version - regardless of whether we end this support or not. If someone would like to keep support for jessie in R4.0, we'll need a volunteer to test updates and fix potential issues (including build issues). - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhrpukzGPukRmQqkK24/THMrX1ywFAl2xH5QACgkQ24/THMrX 1ywRcAf+Ni1W2DZS3Csy4JytjdWHq/QQKRmJ5HJT/ZA1S2+Cz1psMYLHl+bYCCP6 DV5mHZ1SpukdG36jUrKzaG47xt4eIGeBdK4pQLo0JuoCJZkSAvil7aAtP71l6/rl 3EN5O2QOyCVDtt1jl50QrMzzxe4YnGn3LQYi0mU/5VzwJNBELStlIRW3N7xR73O5 v8bH2OIjU9YqmUSdBwukxLGmbeM0iYP2ecT9dtCE00r0cFOsWvXqxh8kRc5MYheL dual/Szm2n3pCSwtiqGaN8RbNn1mK6e6Jo8HWZ3UvE9U/xqGYWRaMUdUHdCscTCN AwVRAaoA5jJeHEDf6jRWh7lfq7UqXw== =YqQN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/20191024035045.GA18277%40mail-itl.
