On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 5:21:53 PM UTC-5, catacombs wrote: > > Fresh install of Qubes 4.1 on Lenovo X230 with 16 GB RAM, 500GB Samsung > SSD. > > Runs with original Qubes 4.03. After Qubes 4.1, on the upper right hand > side of screen. I see my account name, and to the left a flickering of > something that starts and then goes away. The entire top twitches left to > right every second or two. Pretty annoying > > The first solid icon, on the left, is the ClipBoard. Guessing it is > either the Q for Qubes Manager or the Update Icon. Not a biggie. > > I tried Qubes 4.1 as I had issues trying to upgrade Qubes 4.03. I got > Fedora 31 to download and install. I had and error message when I started > the Software Manager I had something can not find repository, or that is > how I interpreted it. > > I thought I might get it to clear by running the scripts in terminal dom0 > that are available for installing Fedora 31 in a different way. > > I appreciate that the smart people who made copying into dom0 difficult. > It is the correct security procedure. I should admit I appreciate it. > > Thought might be useful if the next time you send out a version of Qubes, > that you left in Dom0 a note file of the different scripts that will be > useful about the time of initial install. Saves a newbie a lot of time > searching for information and then trying to get it to work. > > As I do not have at home internet, or a place to plug an ethernet cable > in, I find it is easier to download an entire Iso of Qubes, and start > over. I have not used Qubes long enough to have much in the way of data > files to lose. However, my approach emphasizes to me how important it is > to me to do proper backups of my data. Easier to recover from problems, > upgrade. > > Which makes me wonder how some view backups with Qubes. Generally it has > been my experience with computers that any sort of auto backup meant to > make backups easy, tend to find unique and creative ways to fail just when > one needs them. I imagine that you folks have a lot more understanding of > this than I do. I plan on simply copying from a Qube, like say work, or > personal, vault into an Veracrypt container on an USB drive. Multiple > drives on multiple days, and times. I don't expect you guys to warn me of > problems of it involves decrypting on the laptop side, and re-encrypting to > the USB drive. I will test through and discover what recipe works. I did > think it seems to be an issue for some now, in that some on the Users forum > have problems getting data off a previously used drive. Maybe you fellows > might think and find an easy option for those who are less experienced, > knowledgeable, and have less patience trying to trick a computer into doing > what I think it should do. The way I think it should do it. > > I have been told that for an experienced user, the upgrades are easier. >
I saw that there was another version for Qubes 4.1 I had installed Qubes-4.1-20200526-x86_64 This morning I downloaded and installed Qubes-4.1-20200614-x86_64 I am guessing the differentiation in numbers between these two refer to dates of release. Flickering on upper right of screen is gone. I have a Q. I do not have an Icon for update. Else the page is stable in appearance. I have not used this new install yet. I downloaded this new version 5.4 GB at Mcds, on an open public WiFi at Mcds (worse using Windows 10) in about fifteen minutes, with a Skylake processor laptop. On Friday I spent over three hours downloading Fedora 31, and the Whonix updates at the public library on my X230 using Whonix. Yes, I am aware this is not the best way to get a trustworthy install. But this is not a finished Qubes 4.1 to trust yet. The check process made available on the first page of the ISO runs quite fast on my X230. less than five minutes. > > Thank you for your efforts. I realize that for every hour I spend trying > to install Software, you fellows have probably spent several thousand > hours. I hope this Post was clear, even if too wordy. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/5ebae110-6981-4c93-b3f5-96054d027ca9o%40googlegroups.com.