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On Fri, Dec 26, 2025 at 03:33:26PM -0000, qubist wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2025 14:46:01 +0100 Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> 
> > Just some random sample: [...]
> 
> What about e.g. acl? It is in the unneeded list in 4.2.4 but is
> installed in 4.3.0.

The `dnf remove acl` test says it's not needed.

> > As for the default installation, installer follows this file:
> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-qubes-release/blob/main/comps/comps-dom0.xml
> > Note not all groups are installed, only those in environment
> > qubes-xfce (defined near end of the file). It probably can be reduced
> > further if you want to take a shot at it.
> 
> I am looking at it. I wonder what is the necessity to have e.g.
> xfce4-netload-plugin, considering it cannot monitor the network load of
> sys-net?

Looks like a candidate for removal.

> Or what is qubes-dom0-unwanted-packages?

This is an empty package trying to prevent some other packages to be
installed.

> Also:
> 
> If one manages to use a separate GUIVM, would that make possible
> removing XFCE stuff from dom0? But how would dom0 display its UI
> elements then?

With sys-gui-gpu, there is no need for any graphical stuff in dom0. All
the interface (qubes-manager, widgets etc) runs in sys-gui-gpu then and
communicate with dom0 over Admin API (qrexec).

With sys-gui (not gpu one), you still need some graphical stuff in dom0
(X server, lightdm), but still all the qubes graphical stuff runs in
sys-gui. 

You could remove graphical stuff from dom0 then, at least as long as you
really don't want to have even an option to run GUI in dom0, as a
fallback.

- -- 
Best Regards,
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
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