On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:31:14PM -0000, qubist wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 18:11:14 +0100 Ben Grande wrote:
> 
> > I do not agree with removing packages from existing systems.
> 
> Just to make clear: My proposal is NOT to have the extra packages in
> the template in the first place. That is what I mean by removing of
> packages from template. It does NOT mean removal from installed
> systems e.g. through the updates mechanism. The latter would be a
> nightmare for users.
> 
> My suggestion is to have a new version of the minimal template, not an
> upgrade of the current one. Users would need to explicitly install that
> new version to use it. The old version can simply be discontinued after
> a short transitional period.
> 
> 
> * What is discussed in the forum thread is how to uninstall packages
>   from existing system because it is the only possibility given the
>   status quo, or one has to build a template oneself.

Hi

Let's build a micro template, starting with Debian, and push it as a
community template. If there's take up and good feedback, we could
consider it as a full Qubes template. How does that sound?

I've worked up a build within qubes-builder, (still some bugs to be
fixed), and can push that soon.

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