> On May 25, 2016 at 2:20 PM Andrew David Wong <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On 2016-05-25 03:40, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I hope for the last time today ;)
> > 
> > For online P&P-role playing sessions and for podcasting I need to 
> > use a usb-webcam and usb-microphone. If I understand it correctly 
> > the only way to get those working is to use a usbvm. So I
> > activated it and Cheese and Audacity are showing the expected
> > results.
> > 
> > But I would need to use both in Chrome as well for Hangouts and 
> > WebRTC-sessions. But the usbvm doesn't seem to have access to the 
> > internet. In the VM settings I cannot choose a NetVM (probably 
> > because it is a NetVM itself if I understand it correctly). There 
> > is the NetworkManager to check though in Services. When I do an
> > "ip addr list" in the usbvm there is only a loopback-interface.
> > 
> > What would be the best way to approach my problem?
> > 
> 
> Any AppVM can be a USBVM (by adding the USB controllers in the
> "Devices" tab in "VM settings"), so if a USBVM-as-NetVM doesn't work
> (can't test this myself at the moment), then a USBVM-as-AppVM should
> be able to get network access by assigning sys-firewall as its NetVM.

Ok, I got that to work. When I tried it the first time I could add only one 
controller but ran into the problem that the AppVM wouldn't start with an error 
that the device driver is already in use by xendlight. I didn't get that in the 
end the pci_strictreset False would be the solution to that problem. The reason 
was that sys-usb worked with both controllers but the appvm didn't work with 
just one (after fiddling around, it worked with both). I ran into one wall 
after another. Now it seems to work.

P.s.: Is there some sort of documentation wiki? I can only find the
> > "Docs" which are ok-ish for the beginning and the archive of this
> > mailing list.
> 
> All of our documentation is here:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by "for the beginning." As you can see,
> some pages go quite in depth, and there's also a section for
> developers, most of which is here:
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/system-doc/

Yes, I know that documentation and I mean exactly that. It is not very beginner 
friendly imho but maybe I am just spoiled by the Arch- and 
FreeBSD-documentation.
The problem I have that when I google for errors, you might find the mailing 
list. In the documentation problems are described but typical concrete error 
messages are not mentioned that occur in those cases, thus throwing error 
messages into google do not lead to the documentation.
 
> > I.e. is there a place where I could add the stuff I found out so 
> > far by myself or asking in this mailing list, so it is easier to 
> > find for others?
> 
> Yes, there's an "Edit This Page" button on every page of the
> documentation. It's all written in Markdown, managed under Git, and
> hosted on GitHub. We happily accept pull requests containing quality
> contributions. :)

I will see what I can do. I find the "create a pull request on github"-method 
just harder than a wiki (that's why I asked about a wiki), where I can easily 
add pages. I am not really a developer and I rarely create pull requests. I 
will look into it :)

> If you'd prefer just to send out some informal notes, then this
> mailing list is the right place to do it (and would also be
> appreciated!).

Yeah, that's the thing. I am not sure where I put something like: "For getting 
the teamviewer-client to work, don't use the offered packages but use the 
tar.gz and start the binary" (in a a bit more detailled way for people who do 
not know tar-options by heart). The documentation kind of looks that such a 
thing doesn't fit there and a mailing list is also nothing where short how-tos 
should be posted because of discoverability.

I will learn the ways of this community :) So far you all are very helpful and 
this is a real delight after my experiences in the Arch-community :)

Niels

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