> On June 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM Achim Patzner <no...@noses.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 17.06.2016 um 06:11 schrieb Drew White:
> > Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement or 
> > anything for me wanting to run it.
> 
> You didn't read the license very well, then. Depending on the version of 
> Mac OS X you bought as part of your machine there are several 
> restrictions (including only running server versions and only running it 
> on genuine Apple hardware) on the use of the software you licensed.

Actually if he updates his iMac regularly it depends on the version installed. 
And 10.10 is allowed to be virtualized (10.7 and up is client and server; 10.5 
and .6 only server - since for some versions the server is only an extension of 
the client via an AppStore-App anything else wouldn't make sense)

> > All that the qubes-os developers are doing is putting the availability 
> > for those that have a MAC and want to run one piece of hardware 
> > instead of 4 to do so without an issue.
> 
> _could_ be doing.
> 
> > If people decide to use it for the wrong purposes, then that is not 
> > the fault of Qubes-OS. Qubes-OS and developers should not be the 
> > judge, jury, and executioner for this.
> 
> The Qubes developers should have the right to decide that for themselves.

Yep, priorities and such.

> > The patch for Qubes 3.0 would work fine, jsut have to put it into 3.1 
> > / 4.0 and get it working again.
> 
> If you belive this is a good idea why don't you spend your time on doing it?

Because not everyone is able to code, test code and build an operating system 
and would need a lot of work by the user to get to a level to include an 
appropriate patch (sorry, I don't know what exactly the patch is doing and what 
needs to be done to recompile the Xen hypervisor and install it properly) but 
maybe not a lot of work by the developers. But I also have to say that users 
often assume things are simpler than they expect. If the devs have no use for 
OS X and there's only one user who really wants it, the priority is probably 
not that high.

> > I own a Mac, I want to run MacOSX on Qubes on my PC which is much much 
> > more powerful than my Mac. And that way I could also have multiples.
> 
> You know that you really start sounding like a spoilt child? If this is 
> so important to do, implement it, publish it on the repository and 
> mantain the code across Qubes versions. Do the work or pay for it.

Yes, there is always the option to ask a Qubes-dev what he wants in terms of 
compensation to get the feature faster implemented.

I adjusted my expectations in terms of F/OSS that I can have feature requests 
and bug reports and hope that they get implemented at some point because I just 
don't have the money to pay a dev because I expect their hourly rates are 
outside my budget. Even with paid software I had to adjust my expectations that 
I pay for what the software can do now - everything else is just hopeful 
wishing (looking at you Hibari).

Niels

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