On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Andrew David Wong <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 2016-07-02 05:30, Franz wrote:
> > With Qubes release 3.x, having USB controller(s) default assigned
> > to sys-usb and Xen meddling checking shared resources between
> > different USB controllers, it is even more difficult than R2 to
> > use external USB music hardware, either for output or input.
> >
> > So I wonder: why not using sys-usb as a music hub? Everything is
> > already assigned and all you have to do is plug in external USB
> > devices.
> >
> > Well, now all music I'm playing on other hardware are mp3
> > downloaded from internet, which means sources that I cannot
> > control and eventually compromised. So this may result in
> > compromising sys-usb. Consequences? I do not know, but I do know
> > that the color of sys-usb is default red, so this may not be a
> > mayor problem.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > I have seen that default sys-usb does not has a sys-net VM. It may
> > be possible to leave it as it is, playing music saved on a USB
> > medium, or it may be even more convenient to connect sys-usb to a
> > sys-net VM to directly play music from youtube, internet radios,
> > etc. Would you do that?
> >
> > Best Fran
> >
>
> - From a security perspective, I think you're right. sys-usb and sys-net
> (in some cases, they may be combined) should be assumed to be
> compromised, which means that we should assume that an attacker could
> be using sys-usb to do anything (including play music files). If we're
> already assuming that an attacker could be doing this, why shouldn't
> you (the actual owner of the system) not do it yourself, if you want to?
>
> - From a practical perspective, your performance may not be very good if
> memory balancing is disabled and a low amount of memory is assigned to
> the VM, so you may want to adjust this. (You wouldn't adjust this to
> benefit an attacker, though, so the analogy may start to break down
> here.)
>

Thanks Andrew, the most lightweight music player I could find is Deadbeef,
which is even portable, so no need to install it in template. It works
perfectly with the default memory setting of sys-usb. I had to install also
pavucontrol in template to be able to rise the volume in sys-usb beyond the
maximum of Deadbeef.

Really great sound now with very little work!! :-)) My dogs are alarmed
hearing loud music in my room.

Just a small detail, is there a way to use QM "run command in VM" to launch
the script that starts portable Deadbeef?

Best
Fran


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> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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