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On 2016-07-31 13:42, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> On 2016-07-31 13:38, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 01:30:42PM -0700, Andrew David Wong wrote:
>>> On 2016-07-31 10:41, donoban wrote:
>>>> On 07/30/2016 11:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 02:44:24PM -0700, tel wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, Chris. I was waiting for 3.2-rc2, which I 
>>>>>> just installed. It seems to come with the latest AEM package, so
>>>>>> I didn't have to install that package myself.
>>>> 
>>>>>> I added the parameter to the tboot line. It didn't reboot, but
>>>>>> it hung before asking for the password with "Waiting for 
>>>>>> /dev/disk/by-label/aem* to be connected..."
>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure where to go from here.
>>>> 
>>>>> Do you use also USB VM? In that case, dom0 has no access to USB 
>>>>> controllers...
>>>> 
>>>>> But you can re-enable it just for boot time by editing 
>>>>> /etc/default/grub and removing the line with "hide_all_usb" (or
>>>>> just comment it out). Then rerun `grub2-mkconfig -o
>>>>> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg`. It will expose dom0 for all connected USB
>>>>> devices for a short time during system startup.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Nice, this should be added to: 
>>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/#tocAnchor-1-1-4
>>>> 
>>>> With some warning: "Caution! Enabling usb-vm with LUKS encryption and
>>>> a USB keyboard could stop you from booting your system"
>>>> 
>>>> :)
>>>> 
> 
>>> If a USB keyboard is detected, the installer does not allow the option 
>>> of creating a USB qube, so it should not be possible for a user to 
>>> accidentally get him- or herself into this predicament.
> 
>> But using USB qube will not stop you from creating AEM usb stick (or the
>>  other way around).
> 
> 
> So, the problem is that if rd.qubes.hide_all_usb is added to grub.cfg when
> the USB qube is created, but the user later decides to create an AEM USB
> stick, then the user must be told to remove rd.qubes.hide_all_usb, or else
> it will not work. Is that correct?
> 

(And, as you said, the converse: If a user creates an AEM USB stick, then
later decides to create a USB qube, they should be warned not to add
rd.qubes.hide_all_usb to grub.cfg.)

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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