On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 6:05:39 PM UTC+3, J. Eppler wrote: > Hello, > > till now the argument of Qubes OS was that there are no laptops with AMD > CPU's or APU's which Qubes OS can run on. > > Qubes OS primary focus is on laptops and than on workstations. > > Qubes OS uses Xen to isolate "qubes" (vms) from each other. Xen can run on > AMD, Intel, ARM and other platforms. Therefor Qubes itself is not dependent > on the hardware itself. Qubes depends on certain virtualization extensions > like Second Level Address Translation (SLAT), CPU virtualization extension > and IO-Virtualization (IOMMU). AMD has all those virtualization features. So, > in theory Qubes OS could run on AMD chips. > > The problem till now was that AMD was not producing any hardware which was > able to compete with Intel's quasi mono pole. This changed with this weeks > AMD Zen announcement. The next question is: when does AMD Zen CPU's will > appear in laptops? > > The next question is, will AMD offer SEV support for consumer CPU's?
I thought I read somewhere that Qubes is moving to hardware-enabled virtualization, though? Zen laptops were supposed to arrive first half of 2017, but I think they got delayed to second half of 2017 now. So yeah, it will be a while until enough people have these. But a Qubes/OEM partnership could still make them relevant sooner. I don't know if ZEV will be in all consumer chips, but considering SGX is in Skylake+ now, I would hope so. AMD does seem to target this at "cloud companies" in their paper, though...I'm sure we'll find out more about it by early next year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/49209c97-8797-46f6-bbde-edac01c9d918%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.