"I understand your position. At this point, I think you should read, learn, and try (i.e., download, install, and use) as much as you can about your viable options to figure out which solution is right for you.
While there is a fair amount of code and functionality that is unique to Qubes, knowledge of Linux and Xen would still be very helpful. Really, though, if you just want to try Qubes out, it shouldn't be necessary to learn Linux or Xen at all. If you run into any problems, some basic familiarity with the command-line will help, though." So nothing too crazy advanced then? Alright, when the time comes I'll give it a shot. As it is right now, it seems on all the Distro/VM combinations I've found and looked into I have to figure out how to do the GPU pass through so that I can use the CPU/GPU intensive programs I wish to use off of the windows kernel. Having Xen as a core base just helps me skip a step or two. "Fair warning, though: If you do decide to go with Qubes and attempt to do DIY GPU passthrough, that's likely to be *much* more challenging from a technical perspective (though generous users have provided detailed guides on this list already). You should also be aware that it inherently comes with significant security trade-offs." I would say that goes without saying, as such is one of the eternal struggles of security. When one fights monsters..., yet with out the ability to do my job, hobby, ... I want to say or simply pass the time, yet that would be different... so. If I can't do what I must, why have it? Yet I like the added security, it's a nice feature to have on the side, as security isn't my main deal. What I do isn't exactly a threat unless suddenly I work under a government that is a fan of 1984 Grey on all the things. Oh my. Such a task. I guess once you start doubting you never stop. Well, I suppose if I do come across an error or an issue about GPU pass trough, I'll email "qubes-users" and hopefully be able to come up with a solution. It may be technically over my head, way over in fact currently. Yet Microsoft's actions with 10, that they have also pushed into 8 & 7, just. Ugh. Thank you once again, - Mike Mez On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Andrew David Wong <a...@qubes-os.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-12-19 16:29, Mike Mez wrote: > > Wow! I wasn't actually expecting my "dream" scenario to be so > > possibly ... probably ... maybe in fact viable. I understand that > > since the main focus in Qubes early stages (or perhaps it's far > > more proper to say at whole,) is security that this is what your > > main marketing point would be. Yet with the "windows integration", > > if I understand this properly, is a big deal. I mean shoot, the > > only reason (the only reason?) people use windows now a days is > > its entrenched ubiquitous nature. Shoot, as mentioned the only > > reason I use(d) it is because that is what the programs I use... > > use. So the ability to co-op that... am I over thinking this? It > > just sounds cool to me. > > > > "It depends highly on the individual, but if you're coming from a > > purely Windows background, the biggest thing might be adjusting to > > a Linux environment. In general, the most important qualities will > > be perseverance, a willingness to learn, and the ability to solve > > your own problems. (Of course, the mailing lists are here to help, > > but things generally don't work very well if someone makes no > > effort and expects to be spoon-fed solutions.)" > > > > Alot of this IT stuff is admittedly over my head currently, and > > I'm glad the Qubes Team are working towards a better user > > experience (as mentioned in the interview). I'm just smart enough > > to know how dumb I am, you see, as this sort of thing is not > > particularly the world I come from (Design, Print, Games, > > Artsy...whatever). Overall, the willingness to learn is a given, > > that doesn't help me much - I'm HERE! I'm looking for a direction > > for my amateur mind to move on. What I am curious about is what > > would be required to problem solve. Since Qubes is based on linux, > > does that mean I could experience problems just as in any other > > form of linux, and there for I could get a book, and gather > > information that way. OR. Qubes is so customized that it has its > > own things about it, and therefor Qubes documentation is the go to > > to figure out what is going on. I'm trying to figure out my next > > move here, as Qubes isn't the only alternative OS I've been looking > > in to, and some of the Distros I've looked at have very through and > > beginner friendly documentation. The catch being I would have to > > set up and figure out how to implement a VM, most likely KVM, and > > do all the things I want to do with that. Furthermore I'm basically > > dabbling in theory right now, trying to figure out if I should go > > all in or if it would just be easier to bite the bullet, Baremetal > > Windows 10, and just air gap all the things. > > > > I know its not going to be easy, I knew that when I decided to > > look into feasibility. I know nothing and I'm trying to figure out > > what mountain to choose and the equipment I need for the climb as > > the way I see it I'm pretty much on my own once I start. The > > potential right now looks the best with Qubes. Amazing potential. > > I'm very hopeful I can figure this out and make it work, The > > OpenGL virtualization thing I'm really going to need to wrap my > > head around for example. > > > > Yet now I'm starting to ramble, so I'll leave it at that for now. > > > > Thank you for your time and efforts, > > > > - Mike Mez > > > > Hi again Mike, > > (I've CCed the qubes-users mailing list again. Please keep it CCed if > you reply further.) > > I understand your position. At this point, I think you should read, > learn, and try (i.e., download, install, and use) as much as you can > about your viable options to figure out which solution is right for you. > > While there is a fair amount of code and functionality that is unique > to Qubes, knowledge of Linux and Xen would still be very helpful. > Really, though, if you just want to try Qubes out, it shouldn't be > necessary to learn Linux or Xen at all. If you run into any problems, > some basic familiarity with the command-line will help, though. > > Fair warning, though: If you do decide to go with Qubes and attempt to > do DIY GPU passthrough, that's likely to be *much* more challenging > from a technical perspective (though generous users have provided > detailed guides on this list already). You should also be aware that > it inherently comes with significant security trade-offs. > > Best, > Andrew > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYWPQrAAoJENtN07w5UDAw1AwQAMYqiXJtDulpxp9Sp+acP13v > eJmQ+67UWSdYX1V9Oybj/KSRKRTn4Qpqb/Rf2hg71Yc5TUfSOY6EJlferq9Xf4Y4 > l6wVdKyJImwFsuvhjpPLJ4GHn/G5o1NGExhucqtUpRMt9QpE/5pFGK/vpWkAefg0 > h+Ko7i4gKaYqPXohx6k5Gf4+ryYUMceA2wNQAYPcHf6D7zpF7OLaCS8gQO9ItkXb > Tth0H3RfmrdtgpT5FhvVk5Y8kf1XL7cg/7fcHfnSww9SXzUX2E8fXwkh2irPwcC7 > W+ih9ewrfnMe4hOrwB849/pkDZF4LxSnLXnsweQiZNJZY1XmUfuwCAmN216TU4zu > 4UkQBLiQZ47xWwMpNFYF1hVBdVh/blU3B/skxGqs0s9OGbQmR1R9gOlgnEQPxRdp > wuqBF1ettrfnwonBKn9oTAaK4mrwnJXRgsfaRRm4MjA4fOCKoj9QU92TEBUOwZIk > 40Uiq2FovS0CNYTdCkIrxqTJvm9DhbxobU5sOu7laB5g2f9QS5naa6ejukgWttBH > KtGDjQLHT+15AIUbW3/RIAKb8squNH43AjrKb5aNblgvlCNFC1akFBRp7DyDeRkm > +3RwfazxG0ONnKuA2M0IHvvPq4xUs4BZyp0WK+eg1h3DJcEspoKA9/AAhh8pSTCf > wLyUmJ3xg03Vw3eOSi9D > =ilV3 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. 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