I've just started using Qubes and I find it awsome, but I'm having problems 
updating the Debian Template Kernel and it seems to me this is a very important 
topic, since Qubes principle is isolation and simply some VMs doesn't have to 
support functionality you don't use and new kernels are always bigger, but they 
include interesting fixes and security improvements, so I'd like to reduce the 
attacking surface and still be able to use new kernels.


I have to say I've followed the Officials Docs:
Qubes Docs  -> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/managing-vm-kernel/
Debian Docs -> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

I've tried multiple ways:
1) Compiling the kernel the good old way, importing the current Qubes kernel 
configs and apply some changes
2) Compiling the kernel the debian way
3) Compiling the kernel the good old way, using the default configs (make 
defconfig)
4) Installing linux-image package

All these failed.



I installed 'grub2-xen' in dom0, then:


1-2) Compiling the kernel with custom configs

I installed 'linux-header*', 'linux-source packages' and 
'qubes-kernel-vm-support',
then I extracted the archive in /usr/src, 
I apllied the patch provided by debian and 
I extracted and copied the Qubes Kernel current configs in '/proc/config.gz' 
into the linux-source dir with the name '.config'.

I ran 'make' and 'make install' and I encountered an error:
    
    error: illegal package name 
'linux-image-4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64': 
                 character '_' not allowed


So, I tried to the debian way, I installed 'fakeroot' and 'kernel-package'.
I ran 'make menuconfig' and I made some changes, then
I ran 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=2.0' and I encountered the same 
error as above:

    This is kernel package version 13.014+nmu1.
    install -p -d -o root -g root  -m  755 
/usr/src/linux-source-4.8/debian/linux-image-4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64/DEBIAN
    sed -e 's/=V/4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64/g'    -e 's/=IB//g' \
    -e 's/=ST/linux/g'  -e 's/=R//g' \
        -e 's/=KPV/13.014+nmu1/g'                       \
    -e 's/=K/vmlinuz/g'          \
    -e 's/=I/YES/g'     -e 's,=D,/boot,g'        \
    -e 's@=A@amd64@g'   \
    -e 's@=B@x86_64@g'     \
    ...
    dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name 
'linux-image-4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64':
                 character '_' not allowed
debian/ruleset/targets/image.mk:230: recipe for target 
'debian/stamp/binary/linux-image-4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64' failed
    make: *** 
[debian/stamp/binary/linux-image-4.8.15-rt10-11.pvops.qubes.x86_64] Error 255



3) Compiling the kernel with default configs

I ran 'make defconfig', then
I ran 'make' and it went all good,
but when I ran 'sudo make install' I encountered some errors, so I remembered 
the Qubes Docs and I tried to use DKMS, so
I ran 'sudo dkms autoinstall -k <version> -a amd64', but I didn't see any 
output unlike the one showed by the Qubes Docs, so I stopped here.



4) Installing the debian 'linux-image' package

I ran 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-amd64', but during the installation the 
terminal disappeared and the VMs led state turned to yellow, so I tried to 
reboot the machine, but the light was still yellow.
I checked the logs, I dind't see any errors and the VM reached the login, but 
the dom0 show an error related to the id.

So, I attached to the VM console from dom0 with 'sudo xl console debian-8-test',
I tried to make 'dkpg' finish the installation with 'dpkg --configure -a' and 
it finished it, but it told me that 'WITH THIS INITRAM, THE PC WILL NEVER 
BOOT', so
I ran 'grub-update', I set 'pvgrub2' as kernel in VM Manager and tried to 
reboot, but the machine couldn't mount root, as the error above had announced.

What's up with with the initramfs?



I think I've tried a lot and I can't still understand why the procedures showed 
in the Officials Docs didn't work, maybe I've missed something or I've done 
something wrong.


Is really possible to use a custom built kernel iniside a VM?
If yes, how can we manage to do it?

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