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On 2017-02-10 19:07, pixel fairy wrote:
> On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 2:56:15 PM UTC-8, Oleg Artemiev
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 6:38 PM, pixel fairy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 9, 2017 at 3:54:03 AM UTC-8, Oleg
>>> Artemiev wrote:
> 
>>>> Does this mean that USB qube is now useless as a security
>>>> border on such a mother board?
>>> only if the manufacturer has it enabled. the only vendor who
>>> got back to me (and knew what i was talking about) when i asked
>>> was system76 to confirm that it is disabled on their lemur
>>> series. puri.sm was aware, but doesnt have any hardware out
>>> using those chips.
>> So finally it is a question of trusting the vendor (and their
>> public relations personnel who may think that those capabilities
>> are not really disabled.
> 
> yes, or a cheap data cable if you already have the hardware.
> unfortunately, its easy for a vendor to say they're good and then
> say "oops" if they're not, and called out on it. we need better
> competition in security conscious hardware.
> 
>> Shouldn't these CPUs and motherboards be specially noted as
>> dangerous in qubes HCL?
> 
> agreed, but i think its up to Andrew David Wong
> 
> (i hope that triggers a mention notice so he sees this)
> 

Didn't trigger a mention, but I saw it. :)

(In general, the best way to make sure I notice a message is to CC me.)

Actually, I think this should be up to Joanna and Marek (CCed). I
don't know enough about USB->JTAG to confidently evaluate how
dangerous it is.

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Andrew David Wong (Axon)
Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org
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