-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-04-05 22:55, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 11:29 PM, cooloutac <raahe...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The sound mixer app I installed xfe in mutes things when I lower the volume >> all the way by accident. Never realized till now lol. I always have to go >> into dom0 alsamixer. >> >> Is there a better plugin to use? Does a new iso come with one by default >> now? > > This same exact bug keeps coming up again and again. See: > - https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2550 > - https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2117 > - https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2291 > - https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2321 > - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/53TYf5GYkqY/ZU8i5v6JAwAJ > > This was fixed a while ago, but people don't get the fix because of > the limitations of updating dom0 by only updating the packages > installed there. When things get fixed in the installer, they don't > trickle down to existing systems, and we don't publish new release > ISOs except for on major releases. This means the default install is > often broken, and many people end up needing to independently solve > the same problems over and over. This is clearly not ideal, and IMO > the way in which we manage dom0 needs some rethinking. > > For this specific case I think we'd need a meta-package tracking which > packages are installed by the installer, and have the installer just > list that one and have deps of it be pulled in automatically. That > would let us update *which* packages are installed by default and have > that change affect existing installs. Then, as for actually putting > the new mixer in the panel, we'd probably need a %post section in a > relevant package or something. >
Thanks for bringing this problem and solution to everyone's attention, JPO. I've created a tracking issue (which, I hope, properly captures both the problem and the proposed solution): https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2742 > IMO updating needs a better solution overall. I tried to start a > discussion about this here: > - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/dCctVsf15dE/discussion > but it didn't go anywhere. > IMHO, the reason that thread didn't go anywhere was because it did not clearly identify a serious problem that needed to be solved or an enhancement that ought to be implemented. I think your message above does a much better job of doing both, and the older thread is clearer in light of it. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJY6vy+AAoJENtN07w5UDAwwjwP/i2ZSxHafmddFvtfSesQ6CGs /jN6BJYrBOmfvHL9zH5vx29IVsYPLt2mUC+r7OCZKOO2EyIsvTdq3FoBKXNM/pUO LfArmni/iUPjEYcpliNacLJNOnoJvx2wRisLH4hPb7jEoLv0KfmPp+eYbkchyNVM 2HpIGw8Fzo/fCth0gt5sWIL7Yo/ld9QWLuAnRXaWhp0d5P9TACai/Qt0Cby+eN7A V7GPBAT0cvP3gPtkE56Tf+F6ibi+zxPaS99WteHWSkXv8D39lncYH3269X+D1vLr 2KXNCgfxh0WNmd65xmwFHlj6ulGhpg6bqmoshLZxkATSprjUXloF7KZuYZarcWpP OPE/gKnx+TQ1QuFbijMdw1Ph66sdKonc7MXc8pS6uJckE7iMNGJx37Lxv4ZmHk6z PfAyCoerad9XidxNt15PJQOGTh1VGkarGRVV+uRAM+SIpctJzAOlj87N6aEiWpHd Eeuv5ndJPFbmYPl8Ihua9/KGpl259I6x4uwDXxX8JxU28SzrrkpaW8MvlDX0mhqn l94wJiO/cCHEbInrY4lz3ri9I0FGRrRf6Fr1iSzGIC8IBn7M/vdMQ9PvO0BAUwAu nIm4zqlCSXL/21WPTP4PiB8kfVyTRFQqQ06rSSZaSDYeOA/138C2+lHhNGM7Lgfd 4h/9l5TtnEdsAmnrydQZ =hiil -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/57371712-fb11-f8b9-c53e-3738e9c12e5c%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
