On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:03:05 PM UTC-4, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 05/01/2017 02:33 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> > I know I can't buy one, so how do I get an a fresh iso if my machine
> > is compromised?  Obviously,  someone more prudent would of kept their
> > original iso on dedicated usb stick. But I was too cheap.
> 
> I'll go out on a limb and say that Qubes is more about defending against 
> oncoming threats.
> 
> Pre-existing compromise creates a dilemma for the user, who can 
> pragmatically try to minimize further compromise by degrees. For 
> instance, burn a DVD and then verify it on multiple machines (incl. 
> different architectures). This is not unlike trying to validate the 
> authenticity of a PGP key using different network channels (not quite 
> "out of band" but possibly effective).
> 
> >
> > So what happens if that was not done,  or how can someone get a
> > trusted iso for the first time in the first place?  Is just checking
> > key signatures and using dd on a compromised machine enough? I
> > imagine that would be dangerous.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Since you will probably want to start with Qubes on a non-compromised 
> machine, I suggest to download and verify using that.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise, [email protected]
> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886

yes good idea,  someone else had suggested to me to verify multiple iso's which 
is also a good idea.  Does Qubes ever plan on selling iso sticks?

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