Hello,

Sorry for bringing this topic back - but the problem that Windows behaves
different in Debug/fullscreen vs seamless mode is a major deal breaker for
daily office work.

Am 12.05.2017 11:15 nachm. schrieb "PR" <[email protected]>:

Hello

On 05/12/2017 01:17 AM, PR wrote:

Hello,

after I've setup my Win7 work HVM with all application and switching to
seamless mode after everything is working, I came across a strange
behavior:
If I launch Excel within Debug mode and seamles mode disabled, I am able to
access the filesystem to open and save files.
If I launch Excel after disabling Debuf and enabling Seamless mode, Excel
can't access the file system.
This is a problem as this means that I can't even open an Excel-Sheet from
Outlook as Excel can't access the path to saved file.
I thought that seamless mode is just changing something on the presentation
layer, why does this lead to problems with my office apps?
As mentioned I don't have any problems when starting in Debud Node +
seamless mode disabled?
Any ideas what could be the problem?
I'm running Qubes 3.2 and Win 7 Pro with Office 2016 Pro.

- P


Can someone running Qubes 3.2 with Win 7 HVM who is using Outlook & Excel
in this HVM try the following steps:

*first test:*
1) Change HVM Configuration: Seamless Mode = disabled / Debug = enabled
2) Launch Win 7 HVM
3) Create a new Excel sheet test.xls, open it, enter something like 123 and
save it
4) Send this file to your email adress which is configured in your outlook
5) After the mail has been received, try to open the attached Excel file

Question: Can the Excel attachments be opened in Excel from Outook (when
beeing in Debug Mode=
In my case: SUCCESS

*second test:*
1) Change HVM Configuration: Seamless Mode = enabled / Debug = disabled
2) Launch Win 7 HVM
3) Open Outlook and try to open the excel attachment

Question: does this work
In my case: FAILED:
I can open Outlook and open the email, but when i try to open the excel
attachment, Excel is starting and then quits with an error message:
"Microsoft Exce can't access the file 'C:\Windows\system32\config\
systemprofile\AppData\lLocal\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.Outlook\jdkuwehdhdwk\test.xcls

*third test:*
1) Stay in the same seamless windows session like in test two
2) open Excel
3) Try to navigate to the file you have created in test 1

Question: Can you open the file or path?
In my case: FAILED:
When I go to File, Open I don't see any recent opened files and I am also
unable to browse to my folders.
Nothing happens when I click on the button to open a window to navigate my
files


It seems to me that there is a problem, that Excel can't access my folder
structure when beeing launched in seamless mode.
This renders Microsoft Office totally useless when working in seamless mode.

As i need to rely on Outlook/Excel for office use, this makes it's hard to
justify Qubes for business use.
I'd like to know if I am the only one experiencing problems like this?

Who is working with Win7 in Seamless Mode under Qubes OS 3.2 and what is
the result of the test (most important test 3)?


Can someone run the suggested steps to check behaviour in seamless mode?

I've also seen that my Outlook profile gets destroyed sometimes I seamless
mode.
I think that there is something wrong with the user folder redirection to a
private disk when working in seamless mode.

C:\Users\MyUsername has a link to D:\ this has been done when installing
Qubes Tools.
I'll try to remove this redirection and keep all files within the windows
image (C:) to look if this produces another result.

Any feedback on this topic would be very helpful.

- P

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